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[notnyt]

Everything works?  How about those 6 buttons on the wheel.  Please don't make ridiculous claims when there are clearly issues present.  This controller was advertised as fully supporting GT5.  There are numerous issues, including the inability to configure wheel buttons.  If it worked fine, this thread wouldn't exist.

I have a ticket open about this issue.  Instead of trying to fix it, their response was "we are updating the webpage".

So for all of us who paid money for this wheel, and expected to be able to use it for GT5 and have it fully compatibile, we're basically siht out of luck.

[WamomaW]

I think its becuz of the G25 have only 2 buttons on the Wheel vs the G27 which have 6.

Only 2 of the 6 buttons work on the wheel. The top left button(L1) is the Rear View button and the top right button(R1) is the Low/High Beams or Flashers. The middle and bottom row are not mapped. Also the far right and far left red buttons on the H-Shifter, but they are not needed. So, yeah 6 buttons are not mapped.

Remember that its a PC racing wheel. It works on PS3 just fine. I had the G27 way before GT5 came out nor did I have a PS3 at the time.

From what I tested out the horn and wipers are not mapped, but the wipers are on when its raining or snowing ingame. On the controller, R3 is the wipers and L3 is the Horn... I don't think anyone really care about a horn when they are racing. R2 and L2 are to shift up or down(H-Shifter or Paddle Shifter).

Thats all you really need...

[Ichijoe]

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WamomaW wrote:

I think its becuz of the G25 have only 2 buttons on the Wheel vs the G27 which have 6.

Only 2 of the 6 buttons work on the wheel. The top left button(L1) is the Rear View button and the top right button(R1) is the Low/High Beams or Flashers. The middle and bottom row are not mapped. Also the far right and far left red buttons on the H-Shifter, but they are not needed. So, yeah 6 buttons are not mapped.

Remember that its a PC racing wheel. It works on PS3 just fine. I had the G27 way before GT5 came out nor did I have a PS3 at the time.

From what I tested out the horn and wipers are not mapped, but the wipers are on when its raining or snowing ingame. On the controller, R3 is the wipers and L3 is the Horn... I don't think anyone really care about a horn when they are racing. R2 and L2 are to shift up or down(H-Shifter or Paddle Shifter).

Thats all you really need...

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[Moderator note:  please keep it courteous]

Why didn't I see it like that?

Just cause your ok with this doesn't mean that everyone else is, I bought this Wheel with the forethought of Gran Turismo 5 and no sorry there Pocko  IT DOES NOT WORK!

Now whether or not this be the fault of Logitech and their Firmware (or lack thereof), if you choose to want to believe Polyphony Digital. Or if you'd rather want to blame Polyphony Digital for either being lazy, or as has been intimated in this Thread "A bunch greedy bastards" preferring to support a competing brand instead of the more common Ones (i.e. G2x).

The fact remains that the G2x is broken in Gran Turismo 5.

And Logitech, S0NY & Polyphony Digital need to fix this like yesterday!

[endless3]

I have problems with my G27 and GT5 as well.  I have bought my G27 8 months ago, and it has been working well on PC games all these times.  Until I used it with GT5, nevermind those buttons not working (like horn, wiper and etc.), but my biggest concern is that my G27 will start to get off alignment itself to the left after a while, and it will get worse as I played longer.  (i.e. I have played for 45 mins today, and my wheel has already turn itself 90 degree to the left, as I use paddle shift,  I need to hold my wheel like turning left when going in a straight line).  It is getting very annoying, and the only solution I can do is turnoff my PS3 and restart again, which I need to do every 15 mins......and it has been happening everytime I play GT5

[JohnM941]

I also bought the G27 expecting it to be recognized by GT5. It isn't recognized, and this is unacceptable: SONY had better jump into this situation or they'll find that people will boycott SONY products in future. I've played GT4 for years, so I'm familiar with how force-feedback wheels feel. The G27 in GT5 has little feel for the road, it is simlar to a $59 plastic wheel. If Polyphony Digital (PD - developer of the GT5 game) thinks that people like me will go off and buy their $500 Thrustmaster - well think again. I'll buy another racing game rather than sell the G27, and PD can go fly a kite!

A few comments on the GT5 game: first of all there is no respect given the experienced GT4 player (who has all the cars, all the licenses, and millions of GT4 dollars in the bank). And by this I mean be prepared to be treated like any other 12yr old who is driving for the first time (probably with his thumbs). There should have been an option to pass the super license tests and jump into an 'Experienced Driver Mode' which then unlocks all the tracks. Coupled with the no-feel G27 wheel, GT5 is a waste of serious time. I was also not impressed by the demo of the Nurburgring long track on GT5, it looked like plastic because it was rendered so perfectly. 

I just called LOGITECH customer support tonight, and they told me "the game developer has a patch that you can download". What a crock! There is no patch that I'm aware of.

Bottom line: save your money until this compatibility problem is fixed. A wheel that just 'works with GT5' is not a wheel you should invest $300 in (and it's a sly wording that borders on being misleading).

[james007bond]

Hopfeully the next anticipated update for GT5  (due at the end of the month) will include the functionality us G27 owners seek... However, I think that update may be just GT academey related to stop people cutting corners and getting ahead of the 'normal' drivers during the GT races..... Well fingers crossed... Come on PD, sort this mess out please!

[jman2415]

I am getting VERY frustrated and confused!

I do not understand how so many forums can be so split down the middle?

Half the post say yes the G27 with Gran Turismo 5 works while the other 50% say no or there are issues?

Which is it?

I personally contacted Logitech on Thursday and was told aside from reassigning buttons everything works.

The clutch, shifter, wheel, pedals all work.

I was told that you must hold in the clutch before the race starts in order to enable it.

Sounds good right?

Then I get home and search some more only to read the exact opposite on GT Planet and here on Logitechs website!

This is VERY frustrating! Neither Polyphony Digital nor Logitech will make an official statement on this mater.

It appears the GT5 creators feel we need to spend $200 more on another wheel, the Thrustmaster.

Im not sure who is to blame? Logitech? Polyphony Digital? should Sony Entertainment step in? 

Maybe we, the consumers, should step in and stop buying Sony products? Logitech products? Even future Gran Turismo releases? I know it is extreme and maybe I am overreacting but lets see here, $50 something for the game, $300 for the wheel! and now you still have to get a stand or mount for this setup. Thats over $500!!! Big bucks if yo ask me.

We the consumers need to get the message out to Polyphony Digital, Logitech and even Sony that we are not going to be pushed around like little kids pumping quarters into a video game. We spend good hard earned money in tough times to buy good (fully functional) products!

Don't get me wrong, both Logitech and Polyphony do make a GREAT product! But they need to work together to make them truly shine! We should NOT be forced to buy a $500 wheel! If you have the money and want it then get it but if you ask me, where does it end? Next thing you know PD will license a $700 wheel.

I know the G27 works with other games but I love the GT series! Always have since GT1. I BEG the powers that be to step in and figure this mess out. PLEASE!

If not, I feel that we the consumers should take matters into our own hands and STOP feeding the pockets of the corporations with our hard earned money!

I encourage people to write/call Logitech. Polyphony Digital. Heck even shoot Sony Entertainment an email for this is all going on their gaming system.

My order for the G27 is backordered for at least 6 weeks. 

If I do not see a change in things soon, I will sadly have to cancel and move on to some other passion.

The real sad thing is that hurts small companies like wheel stand pro. For if I do not have a wheel, there really is no need for a stand.

Im not a huge computer whiz but from things I've read it sounds like we need a few lines of code?

ONCE AND FOR ALL WILL LOGITECH AND POLYPHONY PLEASE WORK TOGETHER!!!

In the end, you'll both make tons more money.

Think about it or I hope we "The Consumers" will stand together and deny the taking of our hard earned cash!

(I do want to add that Logitech seems like a good company and their customer service processed my call quickly and the rep was polite and seemed genuinely interested in helping me. But, for $300 I need to see results!)

Thanks and sorry for the large post!

[james007bond]

Has anyone used a G27 with GT5 since the update?

Any further feedback?

Thx

[james007bond]

I've just applied the 1.07 update to GT5 and oh God.. the cars are uncontrollable with the G27. What's going on here? The wheel seems all over the place, forcefeedback just does not feel right! I spend more time spinning off the track than I do staying on it now.... And is it me or is there now a bigger dead zone? The update in Nov/Dec 2010 was superb compared to the 1.07 update...and then at least I could drive at speed arounf tracks and not keep loosing control... 

Is anyone else experience such issues?

(I mean the wheel works lovely in NFS hot pursuit.... so why shocking handling in GT5?)..... tut tut tut....

Not happy!

[Koowip]

To preface my post, it is common knowledge that there are only two reasons why a person does not do something.

1)  Because they can’t
2)  Because they won’t

That said, I’ll take a wild stab in the dark regarding the whole “fully supported” issue between the G27 and GT5…

“Because they can’t”
If you’ve done your research, you would have found that neither Logitech nor PD have released any statements citing GT5’s support of the G27 stems from the fact that they “don’t know how”.  The only reason (and I use the term loosely) found was one blurb (in this thread I believe) about an ‘unfair advantage’ with the G27.  Without documented details, this rumor is nothing more than a weak excuse; if you can even call it that. If PD (and/ or Logitech) really wanted to, they could easily make the G27 fully supported for GT5, just as they’ve already done with other makes/ models of wheels. 

If the reason was truly due to a technical issue, (AKA “because they can’t”); PD and/ or Logitech could provide the exact details as to why.  Seeing as no such details exist, that clearly tells us one thing:  they won’t.  But why?
 
“Because they won’t”
Fact:  Logitech sells the Driving Force GT wheel, and the DFGT is the official wheel of GT5. 
Fact: The Thrustmaster T500RS is the official “flagship” wheel of GT5. 

It does not take a rocket surgeon to understand that neither of these two facts could have evolved without a contract in place.  We can speculate all day about the contents of these contracts, but I would bet my ridiculous government salary that the G27 will never be fully supported by GT5 because of it.

It is not a stretch to assume written in the contract that PD profits a certain percentage from each sale of a DFGT or T500RS.  Furthermore, when consumers compare the DFGT, G27, and T500RS in terms of performance, features, and overall value brought to the GT5 experience; I don’t believe it is a stretch to say the G27 is vastly better than the DFGT; and that the T500RS is (arguably) barely better than the G27.  All things considered, I believe most consumers can easily justify the 100% price increase from a DFGT to a G27; but very few can justify the 100% price increase between the G27 and the T500RS. 

That said, please allow me to ask you a question.  Assuming the G27 was fully supported by GT5, would you personally spend $600 for a T500RS that had a non-functioning clutch pedal and no shifter; or $300 for a G27 that felt “practically as good” but included a clutch and shifter?  If you answered “G27” to the question above, you should now understand why PD does not, better yet “won’t” fully support the G27.

Logitech would be silly NOT to assist PD in any way possible in getting full support for the G27 in GT5; doing so means more sales for Logitech.  Remember that PD only launched GT5 to make money; and naturally they want to maximize those profits.  Fully supporting the G27 would hinder sales of the T500RS, which in turn would negatively impact PD.  Sarcastically, I highly doubt PD is in the habit of deliberately shooting themselves in the foot.  

In conclusion, I believe I’ve illustrated that the root of the issue lies with PD, not Logitech.  The only hope we have at this point is that there is an expiration date on the contract, but I certainly won’t hold my breath.  My opinion is we will NEVER see the G27 be “fully supported” in GT5; however, I do so very badly hope to eat my words…

EDIT:  This is what I thought of while using my G27 on the A-Spec LeMans 24hr endurance race. 

What I am curious about however, is WHY are folks having such mixed results with GT5 and their G27.  You would think same product, same results.  Why the inconsistencies?  That's a whole different topic though.