07-07-2012 03:28 PM
Hello, I'm still getting used to the mouse so I may have just missed something when looking through the LGS and the FAQs.
If I press the g-shift button while the left or right click is held down (only 2 that I have tried) then the mouse will act as if I have released them. Both left and right click buttons are still bound in g-shift mode (can't unbind even from that mode) so I am able to press them again but that seems a bit redundant as I don't have to do so if I press any of the default keyboard modifiers.
I'm not sure if this is intentional or not. Either way, I was wondering if anyone knew of a way to get around this or a macro that could. Thanks for any feedback.
07-07-2012 04:27 PM
I discovered this design defect last week when I first started to try to use this mouse in MMOs. Logitech's response: Working as Intended.
I don't think some of the designers of this mouse even play MMOs and/or First Person Shooters.
NO ONE who played extensively would make this big of a boner mistake in the design.
I just hope they can eventually fix it in SW and/or Firmware.
Otherwise, this mouse is for the FAIL for MMO and FPS players.
07-09-2012 12:01 PM - edited 07-09-2012 12:02 PM
It's a very bad design, this third main button.
It causes discomfort over time as the majority of peoples hands are so acustomed to a 2 button design with their ring and pink resting off the mouse. It is not immediately noticeable, but after a few hours you will feel very mild pain. Maybe after a few weeks your hand will adjust, time will tell.
To press the side buttons you need a finger on the opposite side to push against, the only one left is your pinky, if you use your ring finger you end up pressing the 3rd button. I imagine this also attributes to the discomfort.
It's main function, G-Shift, is totally useless as it "unclicks" the left/right mouse buttons.
07-10-2012 10:08 AM
So, I can chime in here:
On having the mouse let go of a held button when G-Shifting: Currently, when G-Shifting, the mouse is actually doing something similar to a mode change on a G-Series keyboard. When you change modes, it releases the keys to prevent a stuck option from occurring with certain repeat macro states. I don't know if we can hotwire this to ignore Left and Right click, but I don't mind asking if we can. But there is a logic behind this behavior. Plus, we figured that when changing to a shifted G-State, it wouldn't often be while someone was holding down left or right click (The only games that would really be directly affected by that, off the top of my head, would be some MOBA games).
Of course, if the G-Shift button is getting in your way for games where you don't actually use the G-Shift functionality, you can always unassign it for that one game profile (Right click the button in LGS > Unassign). I do that for my FPS profiles on that mouse (For my FPS profiles, I also unassign the two buttons my thumb rests upon so I don't get accidental activations in mid-game).
Innocente - Try the above. Are you using G-Shifted assignments in FPS games? If not, I'd unassign that button for FPS games.
07-10-2012 08:33 PM
There are many encounters in MMO's whether its PVP or PVE that requires one to be mobile during the fight. Its quite common to be holding down a mouse button to continue moving while at the same time using multiple skills/abilities. The situation can easily occur where you need to be mobile while at the same time utilize some ability you have set as a G-Shifted G button.
07-10-2012 11:00 PM
True.... I typed that out a little quick and was thinking about how I arrange buttons, and I'm thinking about it in a wider scope now, and I see your situation. Also, partial brain fart to not look @ it from that angle.
ANYways, I don't mind taking a look into this issue. I don't have a solution right now, but when I have an answer, I'll let you guys know.
07-10-2012 11:07 PM
Charles B. ,
I'm glad that someone there finally 'gets it'.
It has been like talking to a wall; no one there has seemed to understand the dynamic of FPS and MMOs that require movement AND usage of skills at the same time.
There is a kind of workaround that I have posted in other threads :
1. Make sure the Mouse is in "Automatic Game Detection" mode where it saves the settings on the computer
2. Assign the LShift to the current GShift (pinky) mouse button.
3. The LShift button will now shift the key values (not GShift them) AND you will still be able to strafe-turn with the RMB.
Note: You will NOT be able to use the GShift keys, but that should not be a big deal as you can assign normal shifted keys in-game. Or, you could use a non-GShift Mode, and have another GShift capable Mode for other stuff.
07-10-2012 11:14 PM
07-17-2012 08:46 PM - edited 07-17-2012 08:56 PM
It's been a week since that last post, CharlesB. Did you discover a solution, possibly an upcoming update? For me, when using various programs, the right-click occasionally/eventually will go away. In this situation, I can either hold the 3rd G-Shift button + RMB to right-click (this usually works in most browser situations, but not all).
However, when using applications and the right-click vanishes, it seems to go away for good - it sometimes flashes the right-click for a split second. The RMB+G-Shift workaround doesn't work in these situations. The only solution for this situation is to unplug the G600 then plug it back in. Unfortunately, I have to do this often. I've been using the G600 +G-shift for everything from Photoshop to Video Editing to Maya to web browsing.
I wonder if asigning G-Shift to another button would work, but really, anything but the third mouse button would be an unsatisfying "solution." As a paying customer (close to $100) I expect a true fix to this issue, not a half-hearted workaround. If it doesn't come, it's a shame, because when it works correctly this mouse is great.