Harmony Remotes - Programming

[JF]

I have an 890 and am interested in using the z-wave capabilities along with a PC based system to provide more complex time control.  It appears, however, that the Harmony 890 will not act in a secondary control position.  It's competition all do or are working on being compatible.  Is anyone working on the 890 or 1000 to allow it to act in a secondary position and hence compatible with more complex z-wave systems?  Thanks.

Message Edited by JF on 03-23-200705:25 PM

[bradhs]

Anyone know the answer to this question? I'm very interested in setting this remote up as a secondary controller. My primary controller must stay primary for my HA system to work.

[JF]

From what I can tell, Logitech's products are not Z-Wave compatible because of this and should not be advertised as such. 

[tboudre]

Logitech should be ashamed for being misleading in their claim of Z-wave compatibility.  Before purchasing the 890, I found both the 890 & 890 Pro for sale on the web.  I could not determine the difference between these two remotes, except for the higher price for the 890 Pro.  One site did mention something about being able to do something obscure that seemed like you would only do if you had a business configuring remotes, but I have only a vague recollection of the difference.  But the Logitech site has absolutely no reference to the 890 Pro, or the differences between the 890 & 890 Pro.  I have come across some forums that say that the difference is that the 890 Pro can be used as a primary/secondary Z-wave controller.  I still have not found any hard documentation from Logitech that confirms this. 

But, one thing is for sure.  The 890 must be the only Z-wave controller on the network.  I found out the hard way after purchasing the SmartStick USB Z-wave controller.  Initially I didn't buy the remote for the Z-wave functionality, but for the RF extender.  I bought a couple of Z-wave switches to check it out, and all was GREAT!  How convenient to not have to get up from the couch after getting comfortable with a movie to turn off the kitchen light I left on!  So, I added more Z-wave switches, and more, then I wanted some remote internet control & I bought the smartstick.  What a let-down.  I sure am glad I didn't try the thermostat controls!  But I guess I can control that with the smartstick. 

Is there any hack, work-around, or trick where I can get the Z-wave control files from the remote and import them into the Z-Tool software possibly with some modification to make the smartstick think it's the secondary controller?  If this is at all possible in any way, shape, or form, I could live with that. 

As another option, can someone please confirm that the 890 pro has the primary/secondary functionality, and what other benefits I might get if I am forced to purchase the 890 Pro to get the now-desired extra functionality? 

This should  be only a software issue in getting configuration from one Z-wave controller to another.  Is there a software update in the works for the 890?

[ZYZforMe]

I have an 890, and am in the exact same boat.  Has anyone figured out how to set it up as a secondary device (or send it's information to another device, to be secondary)?

[acydlord]

The 890Pro primary/secondary functionality refers to the remotes themselves as far as I know. The difference with the 890Pro from the normal 890 is that it allows for multiple 890Pro remotes and multi-room setup. 890Pros are a little harder to find since they are sold through distributors and installers instead of retail. I don't believe the Pro remotes can function as a secondary for z-wave, I haven't found any remotes that have been able to work as a secondary with my z-wave lights, one always loses its connection.

[gallwapa]

Im not sure I understand the problem - are you indicating here that there can only be one total z-wave controller in the z-wave network at a time, or at all.  For example, I would like to purchase a second 890 remote for my home, but would like to be able to control all the z-wave stuff from it...anyone know if this is possible?

That being said I'll also throw it out here - do Z-wave devices count towards the total 15 device limit of the 890?