09-21-2009 06:00 AM
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09-21-2009 06:26 AM
Welcome to the forum.
You need to find out the time that the TV does require to "warm up" before it can accept the input command.
Power it on with the original remote, keep sending the input command, and note the time when it is accepted.
That is the value for Power-On Delay at Adjust Delays.
Then you need to ensure you're using the correct one of the four Harmony Input Methods, so read up WannabeActuary's FAQ Section 26b on that subject.
09-21-2009 09:28 AM
I have a kuro elite. I'm not sure how to confirm it but I suspect the database entries for this have some issues and increasing the time did not work for me. There are some other posts on this. The process for finding the input delay you mention will also require you to cancel the message the TV sends when you try too soon by the way - you can't just keep the button down.
Alternative solution is to add a sendinput X command at the end of the start up sequence.
09-21-2009 09:44 AM - edited 09-21-2009 09:45 AM
What was the default Power-On Delay for your TV, and what is its present value?
It doesn't have to be the input command that you send when testing for the correct value - it just needs to be some command that the TV can recognise and act upon.
The additional Input command you suggest would be sent immediately after the automatic one, so it would be unlikely to have any further effect.
The Harmony Input Method that you use IS important so do check out the FAQ.
09-21-2009 10:17 AM
I'm not at home at the moment , so I can't recall the default.
All I recall was that increasing it did not make it any more successful. The additional command is added to the end of the startup sequence so its sent after the startup delay and the avr and disk player startup delays, so there is time for the TV to settle down.
AFAIK any command sent to the TV too soon results in a message that you must clear to continue - its not that you can't figure out the delay - just annoying to keep punching the buttons back and forth rahter than just holding down the input button.
09-21-2009 10:17 AM
09-21-2009 11:12 AM - edited 09-21-2009 11:16 AM
The additional command is added to the end of the startup sequence so its sent after the startup delay and the avr and disk player startup delays, so there is time for the TV to settle down.
If that is set as Additional When Activity Starts it is sent immediately after the end of the Power-On delay and the sending of the TV's automatic Input command, without reference to the Delays of any other devices - the automatic and additional Input commands would be almost simultaneous.
If you could determine the Power-On Delay that the TV actually requires that would go a long way to resolving the problem, as would a change to Input Method 2 if that is an option.
09-21-2009 11:14 AM - edited 09-21-2009 11:15 AM
if the tv is already on it's not an issue. But we usually turn it off if there's nobody in the room....
Two points here - if the problem is only when starting from all-off then the Power-On Delay is very much involved, and how do you turn off only the TV - is that other than by the Harmony Off button?
09-21-2009 11:15 AM
Did you try adding a 2nd command to change the input to the end of the startup seqence? Sorry I'm not sitting at my home system to tell you exactly where it is.
09-21-2009 11:25 AM