Harmony Remotes - Programming

[nmreuben]

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hhatkin wrote:

If that is set as Additional When Activity Starts it is sent immediately after the end of the Power-On delay and the sending of the TV's automatic Input command, without reference to the Delays of any other devices - the automatic and additional Input commands would be almost simultaneous.

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Hmm I thought the commands were sent in the order they are shown in the summary - TV on, initial input setting, AVR on, AVR input setting, additional device on (If needed), and THEN the repeat of the TV input select.

The observed behavior is that the devices do start up in that order, and the TV input is set last. So either the remote sends it as I describe above

- OR -

It sends TV on, the all the other devices, waits for the power on delay and the sends the input command twice.

What its not doing is sending TV on, wait power on delay, set input (twice), AVR on etc.

Is there something else I may be missing?

[YahooSeriously]

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YahooSeriously wrote:
if the tv is already on it's not an issue.  But we usually turn it off if there's nobody in the room....

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Two points here - if the problem is only when starting from all-off then the Power-On Delay is very much involved, and how do you turn off only the TV - is that other than by the Harmony Off button?

My power on delay is set at the default of 15 seconds, and I only turn it off with my Harmony One.  

[hhatkin]

First the Power-On Commands are sent to each Device in the specified order, separated only by the brief Inter-Device Delays, then each Device goes its own way, in parallel, not in series  - each one waits for the period of its Power-On delay and then receives its Input Comamnd if it has one, immediately followed by any Additional Commands that is or are set for it.

[hhatkin]

OK YS - the default is rather long, but it's still the major factor as long as the problem is only from all-off. One possibility is that you may have specified - accidentally - when setting up the devices that you use Scart connections - that option can disrupt the power and input command sequence.

[nmreuben]

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hhatkin wrote:
First the Power-On Commands are sent to each Device in the specified order, separated only by the brief Inter-Device Delays, then each Device goes its own way, in parallel, not in series  - each one waits for the period of its Power-On delay and then receives its Input Comamnd if it has one, immediately followed by any Additional Commands that is or are set for it.

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Ahh - thanks for that tinsight - the setup implies series. In that case it would appear I don't need the extra input command.

[YahooSeriously]

I set up the inter-device delay for my television (and 360 as well), and that seems to have separated the input selection enough from the tv finishing booting up to allow it to respond and be set to the correct input.  Again, thanks guys!

[hhatkin]

That's right nmreuben - the list shown at Review Settings doesn't make the sequence entirely clear.

OK YS - let us know if anything else comes up.

Message Edited by hhatkin on 09-21-2009 01:04 PM

[TheHatMan]

I seem to have the same problem whith my Samsung DLP HL-5678R

I can find settings for Power on delay and Input delay but not "Inter-Device".  I have gone as high as 25 seconds on the power up delay with no improvement.  It almost always powers up on whatever input it was powered down on.  Once the activity is  running, inputs change correctly.  I only see the problem on power up.  The help button works to correct, but I would rather not do it every time.  How do I change this "Inter-Device Delay"?

[rhachey]

With your Samsung, be sure the Anynet is turned off,  The Inter-device delay is found in the same location as the other delays.  At Devices, Your TV, Settings, Adjust Delays.  The Inter-device delay would not come into play at power up it your TV is not going to the correct input, this is where the Power On delay for the TV comes into play. The Inter-Device delay would come into play if when changing Activities the TV does not go to the correct input. 

Here are the delay settings for my Samsung TV

Power On Delay 13000ms

Inter-Key Delay 0

Input Delay 1000ms

Inter-Device Delay 1000ms