Harmony Remotes

[armond_in_nj]

I have the 650 and a Samsung DLP, and the macros are not finding the correct inputs in a few instances.  For example the remote in device mode can effect most input commands correctly, but NOT the input commands I need (HDMI1  and HDMI2).  I have read on this forum that I can choose an input command that works properly, and then add a few "next" commands to reach the desired input.  How can these steps be added to the macro?  I have searched this forum but unfortunately not found something I can use.  Thanks. 

[triad]

That's not possible with myharmony.com.

[armond_in_nj]

" ... not possible ... "

I'm using the 7.7 software (and sometimes the members.harmony materials).  Is there something I'm missing over there about adding commands?  Thanks.

[triad]

You run the activity wizard again, and at the end select "I want to add more control". Then run through the wizard a second time. Finally at the end, you'll be able to add more commands to the start/end of the activity.

If you have a one-for-all or cable remote, you can use it to teach the missing HDMI 1 and HDMI 2 commands. I would do that instead of adding more commands to the activity if possible. If you have such a remote and post the exact model of your tv, I can post the procedure.

[armond_in_nj]

Thanks for the input.  I don't have a "one-for-all" remote so I cannot try that route.

Specifically, the unit is a Samsung DLP HL-S6188W.  The remote selects inputs with a single button that cycles through the options.  Using some of the techniques described elsewhere in this forum, I've found that:

1.  Some inputs not in use are skipped, and others are not skipped.

2.  Most of the discrete input commands that are listed on the 650 operate properly, except for the two HDMI that I actually need.

3.  The command "input HDMI2" does not work and has no effect.

4.  The command "input HDMI1" works incorrectly, choosing instead the HDMI2 input.

5.  The command "input Component1" works properly.

On the original remote there is a menu command that leads to a drop-down box with a list of discrete input selections.  This means that discrete input commands for each input actually exist, although they are not individually available on the original remote.  This was mentioned earlier somewhere on this forum.

I would like to teach the 650 the two HDMI commands,, but I don't think I can do that using the original remote with only the input cycling option.  Other than the input issue (which can be adjusted with the 650 in device mode), all of my other macros operate properly using five devices (DVR, TV, DVD-R, AVR, BluRay).

I seem to recall reading here that I could set up a work-around by adding a command for an input that operates properly, and then add commands to step down the list to reach the desired command.  If this is so, I don't immediately see how to do it but I will investigate the method you suggested shortly.  Presently stumped but working at it diligently.

EDIT:  I have located the option to add commands using the older 7.7 site (members.harmony), and initial results are promising.  Thanks for the lead, and I will report back later (probably MUCH later).

EDIT2:  So far the 7.7 software is coping with my needs by allowing the 650 to send a working "input *source" command, and then send "source" as many times as necessary to reach the desired (and non-working) command.  This is the current situation with the Samsung HL-S6188W.  Might be interesting to try another Samsung DLP model and "steal" the "input HDMI1" and "input HDMI2"" commands.  Comment?

[armond_in_nj]

As discussed earlier, the "Input HDMI1" and "Input HDMI2" commands in the Harmony database do not work for the Samsung HL-S6188W DLP television.  However the database entries for model HL-S5687W work as desired.  Initially I taught my 700 the correct input commands and found that the activities worked properly.  Later I just substituted the Samsung HL-S5687W for my actual HL-S6188W in the device listing and all works per design.

There are however other peculiarities with Samsung DLPs.  The units do not always power up instantly and frequently there is a delay of several seconds (and longer) while the set powers on..  In my case this has meant that the correct TV input is missed for several activities.  I am not replacing this TV any time soon, and the workaround is to not run any of the more complex activities "cold" but rather start with the simplest "Watch TV" command, and then choose an activity that requires another TV input command.  This always works in my setup.

[rhachey]

You could just increase the Power On delay for the TV, and that should solve your start up problem of missing the input

[triad]

This is very easy to solve now. Since HDMI 2 selects HDMI 1, just rename it to match its function. Then add the following pronto hex code for the real HDMI 2 command per THIS post:

Protocol=NECx2 Device=7.7 Function=233..233
Device Code: 7.7 Function: 233 HDMI2

0000 006D 0000 0022 00AC 00AB 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0689

 EDIT: Nevermind. I missed your post saying another model worked. That's actually the model I got the above code from. Anyway, you just need a longer delay as the previous post says.

[armond_in_nj]

Thanks.  That's my next step, having noticed a few of your other posts where this was discussed.  Meanwhile I'm trying to locate the "disable speakers" commands for the Samsung DLP so the AV receiver alone can handle audio when necessary.  No luck yet.   A little at a time, I suppose.

[triad]

Sorry, there is no known speaker toggle for your tv. Others have done a brute force search, and the code does not exist. You'll just have to use a series of vol- or navigate the menus to turn them off.

I can post a few service menu codes for 3 different diagnostic tests if you're interested. But that's just for fun. It won't solve your problem.