Mice With Mac (READ ONLY ARCHIVE)

[Horster]

As a Mac user, looking for a mouse, it seems you can do the following : buy Logitech, plus SteerMouse or USB Overdrive (older models only), no proper Logitech Mac drivers have been available for years.

Buy Microsoft, drivers working perfectly, always have, but who wants to go MS ?

Buy Razer, good luck.

Apple mice, yeah right . 

Logitech, your drivers haven't been working well, and have been poorly featured since Mac OS 8. How hard can it be, when 3rd party software has been running circles around you for years ?

You are in it for the money, that's fine, but why not grow a pair, put a sticker on the box - 'Windows only' - or bundle SteerMouse with your mice for Mac users ?   

[shiima]

How about making it work.

[unleashedlive]

I have been hesitant to update LCC software ever since it went horrible wrong once and it seems it has done it again.

With this latest update, the left click will no longer hold, for example if I'm trying to drag and drop something on the desktop, it'll drop it halfway and then click again usually selecting just the desktop. Also the left click will now double click instead single clicking sometimes.

This is very frustrating and I'm amazed how Logitech cannot make reliable OS X software for their own products.

Can anyone point me in the direction of LCC 2.2? That works fine for me.

[huggyfg]

Just purchased my wired TrackMan Wheel and updated software to LCC v2.60. Very nice product! I had been using a MS Optical trackball that would no longer work and no longer manufactured. I liked the feature of four buttons with scroll wheel and hope that Logitech might consider. I used for click, double click, and for Safari WEB browser, back and forward. 

Logitech looks and feels better than the MS product and fits my palm better.

Question I have about the scroll wheel is how can I get it to scroll one page at a time? I seem to be able to scroll one line at a time or move the wheel faster to get near a page, but can’t seem to find a setting for a page at a time.

Please advise.

huggyfg 

[ojak]

Macbook Pro

Mac OS 10.5.6

LCC 2.60

v450 mouse

Stutters while copying files to external drives (Time Machine or Finder file copies).  Trackpad works fie during the same operation.  The mouse is unusable until the copies complete.

Additionally, I have noticed that the v450 stutters a lot if the mouse is below the laptop (if i have the laptop on my lap and the mouse beside my leg).  I love the mouse's design, but it's almost unusable with the current software.

[UNst43LE]

This thread should be considered a warning.

[SuperLexus]

LCCDaemon 2.60 has now caused a kernel panic 3 times out of total of 6 panics I've had since having the Santa Rosa 2,4 MBP for about 1+ yr. Running OS X 10.5.4.

My primary use for LCC is Logitech Desktop Mac S 530 incl. the MX600 mouse. But I also have a regular Logitech wired optical wheel mouse M-BT58 that I'm plugging in occasionally when the batteries are low or when two radio mouses can't work in close proximity. Today's panic is causing me to write the circumstances up:

• MBP was on battery
• Wired wheel mouse (see above) was USB-connected
• Miro.app (the media player) was playing a video
• I disconnected wired mouse from USB = boom-insta-kernel-panic

My primary guess is this has something to do with the wired mouse compatibility. I don't recall ever having a kernel panic disconnecting the wireless receiver. Below is the timeline of my 3 LCCDaemon kernel panics.

Fri Aug 22 11:37:23 2008
panic(cpu 1 caller 0x001A8CD4): Kernel trap at 0x0b6c5964, type 14=page fault, registers:
CR0: 0x8001003b, CR2: 0x1806c16f, CR3: 0x013ec000, CR4: 0x00000660
EAX: 0x0b787500, EBX: 0x0b638900, ECX: 0x0c51f178, EDX: 0x0ead7900
CR2: 0x1806c16f, EBP: 0x5b737b68, ESI: 0x0b638900, EDI: 0x08925c14
EFL: 0x00010246, EIP: 0x0b6c5964, CS:  0x00000008, DS:  0x00120010
Error code: 0x00000000

Backtrace, Format - Frame : Return Address (4 potential args on stack) 
0x5b737968 : 0x12b0fa (0x4592a4 0x5b73799c 0x133243 0x0) 
0x5b7379b8 : 0x1a8cd4 (0x46280c 0xb6c5964 0xe 0x461fbc) 
0x5b737a98 : 0x19ede5 (0x5b737ab0 0x0 0x5b737b68 0xb6c5964) 
0x5b737aa8 : 0xb6c5964 (0xe 0x8920048 0x553d0010 0x10) 
0x5b737b68 : 0x43e59b (0xb638900 0x5348b0 0x5b737bb8 0x13565a) 
0x5b737b88 : 0x187425 (0xb638900 0x8925c08 0x1d 0x5b737bb8) 
0x5b737bd8 : 0x12d195 (0xf1ea7a0 0x8bb95a0 0x8 0x11d975) 
0x5b737c18 : 0x1200d7 (0xf1ea700 0x5b737cac 0x24 0x0) 
0x5b737c58 : 0x12d390 (0xf1ea700 0x10000 0x0 0x1) 
0x5b737c88 : 0x14bfa9 (0x5b737cac 0x24 0xead7904 0x6c66e00) 
0x5b737cd8 : 0x12116a (0x8925c08 0x1 0x46db9000 0x0) 
0x5b737cf8 : 0x12396d (0x8925c08 0x1 0x46db9720 0x46db9720) 
0x5b737d48 : 0x127bee (0x6c16140 0x7203 0x46db9720 0x12ed49) 
0x5b737d78 : 0x14c9e7 (0x6c16140 0x7203 0x9 0x11d975) 
0x5b737db8 : 0x12d17e (0xed708a0 0xed771a0 0x0 0x0) 
0x5b737df8 : 0x126257 (0xed70800 0x0 0x24 0x5b737ee4) 
	Backtrace continues...

BSD process name corresponding to current thread: LCCDaemon

Mac OS version:
9E17

Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 9.4.0: Mon Jun  9 19:30:53 PDT 2008; root:xnu-1228.5.20~1/RELEASE_I386
System model name: MacBookPro3,1 (Mac-F42388C8)

Thu Jan  1 13:14:05 2009
panic(cpu 1 caller 0x001A8CD4): Kernel trap at 0x00000000, type 14=page fault, registers:
CR0: 0x8001003b, CR2: 0x00000000, CR3: 0x013e2000, CR4: 0x00000660
EAX: 0x08594400, EBX: 0x13140400, ECX: 0x087f71c0, EDX: 0x138c6600
CR2: 0x00000000, EBP: 0x5b89fb68, ESI: 0x13140400, EDI: 0x0e5b3b88
EFL: 0x00010206, EIP: 0x00000000, CS:  0x00000008, DS:  0x00120010
Error code: 0x00000010

Backtrace, Format - Frame : Return Address (4 potential args on stack) 
0x5b89f968 : 0x12b0fa (0x4592a4 0x5b89f99c 0x133243 0x0) 
0x5b89f9b8 : 0x1a8cd4 (0x46280c 0x0 0xe 0x461fbc) 
0x5b89fa98 : 0x19ede5 (0x5b89fab0 0x0 0x5b89fb68 0x0) 
0x5b89faa8 : 0x0 (0xe 0xe5b0048 0x530010 0x10) 
0x5b89fb68 : 0x43e59b (0x13140400 0x5348b0 0x5b89fbb8 0x3dd3f2) 
0x5b89fb88 : 0x187425 (0x13140400 0xe5b3b7c 0x1d 0x5b89fbb8) 
0x5b89fbd8 : 0x12d195 (0x1061bba0 0x103da5a0 0x9 0x11d975) 
0x5b89fc18 : 0x1200d7 (0x1061bb00 0x5b89fcac 0x24 0x0) 
0x5b89fc58 : 0x12d390 (0x1061bb00 0x10000 0x0 0x1) 
0x5b89fc88 : 0x14bfa9 (0x5b89fcac 0x24 0x138c6604 0x6c5ce00) 
0x5b89fcd8 : 0x12116a (0xe5b3b7c 0x1 0x47029000 0x0) 
0x5b89fcf8 : 0x12396d (0xe5b3b7c 0x1 0x47036270 0x47036270) 
0x5b89fd48 : 0x127bee (0x6c0b170 0xd2713 0x47036270 0x12ed49) 
0x5b89fd78 : 0x14c9e7 (0x6c0b170 0xd2713 0xa 0x11d975) 
0x5b89fdb8 : 0x12d17e (0x132986a0 0x1331cba0 0x0 0x0) 
0x5b89fdf8 : 0x126257 (0x13298600 0x0 0x24 0x5b89fee4) 
	Backtrace continues...

BSD process name corresponding to current thread: LCCDaemon

Mac OS version:
9E17

Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 9.4.0: Mon Jun  9 19:30:53 PDT 2008; root:xnu-1228.5.20~1/RELEASE_I386
System model name: MacBookPro3,1 (Mac-F42388C8)
 

And today's:

Mon Feb  9 11:49:03 2009
panic(cpu 0 caller 0x001A8CD4): Kernel trap at 0x00000000, type 14=page fault, registers:
CR0: 0x8001003b, CR2: 0x00000000, CR3: 0x013fe000, CR4: 0x00000660
EAX: 0x08df3e00, EBX: 0x10efb700, ECX: 0x10c53cd0, EDX: 0x08e35000
CR2: 0x00000000, EBP: 0x5b5e3b68, ESI: 0x10efb700, EDI: 0x0ef0646c
EFL: 0x00010206, EIP: 0x00000000, CS:  0x00000008, DS:  0x00120010
Error code: 0x00000010

Backtrace, Format - Frame : Return Address (4 potential args on stack) 
0x5b5e3968 : 0x12b0fa (0x4592a4 0x5b5e399c 0x133243 0x0) 
0x5b5e39b8 : 0x1a8cd4 (0x46280c 0x0 0xe 0x461fbc) 
0x5b5e3a98 : 0x19ede5 (0x5b5e3ab0 0x0 0x5b5e3b68 0x0) 
0x5b5e3aa8 : 0x0 (0xe 0xef00048 0x530010 0x10) 
0x5b5e3b68 : 0x43e59b (0x10efb700 0x5348b0 0x5b5e3bb8 0x3dd3f2) 
0x5b5e3b88 : 0x187425 (0x10efb700 0xef06460 0x1d 0x5b5e3bb8) 
0x5b5e3bd8 : 0x12d195 (0x1377b4a0 0xe7a65a0 0x5 0x11d975) 
0x5b5e3c18 : 0x1200d7 (0x1377b400 0x5b5e3cac 0x24 0x0) 
0x5b5e3c58 : 0x12d390 (0x1377b400 0x10000 0x0 0x1) 
0x5b5e3c88 : 0x14bfa9 (0x5b5e3cac 0x24 0x8e35004 0x6c78e00) 
0x5b5e3cd8 : 0x12116a (0xef06460 0x1 0x46ddf000 0x0) 
0x5b5e3cf8 : 0x12396d (0xef06460 0x1 0x46e0bf70 0x46e0bf70) 
0x5b5e3d48 : 0x127bee (0x6c27228 0x2cf71b 0x46e0bf70 0x12ed49) 
0x5b5e3d78 : 0x14c9e7 (0x6c27228 0x2cf71b 0x6 0x11d975) 
0x5b5e3db8 : 0x12d17e (0x110930a0 0x1490eda0 0x0 0x0) 
0x5b5e3df8 : 0x126257 (0x11093000 0x0 0x24 0x5b5e3ee4) 
	Backtrace continues...

BSD process name corresponding to current thread: LCCDaemon

Mac OS version:
9E17

Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 9.4.0: Mon Jun  9 19:30:53 PDT 2008; root:xnu-1228.5.20~1/RELEASE_I386
System model name: MacBookPro3,1 (Mac-F42388C8)
 

 Please let me know what other data I can provide for debugging. I have thread e-mail notification switched on.

[ycc2106]

Hi Woody,

Love Logitech, thinks you guys make the best (specially pointer) input devices. Since having mouses and keyboards suddenly giving up on me, I always buy Logitech. I find they last longer. Never had a problem… UNTIL NOW  !!!

So this is my 1st forum message here :

I've got myself a Mac + Leopard 10.5.6 , got the S530 keyboard+mouse combo, installed LCC 2.60 - Cause too slow : set scrolling to max.

But it's still too slow (ex.: 12 scrolls just to go down this "Reply" page !) and horizontal scrolling  does not work [ ^ + ⇧ + scroll ]

So I tried it with my other MX1000 mouse ( which feels heavier, better quality but the clicks no longer work very well   )

LCC detection worked fine - but same results for scrolling.

What can be done ? ... I NEED IT ! PLEASE HELP ! ( Email notification will be on)

Also, I find annoying, on the S350 there are no led lights ( mouse + keyboard ) - it only blinks when reset. Is that normal?

Looks like it's not ON.  The MX1000 mouse leds comes on when I move it. 

+ Can't see any LED for caps lock.

+ The 'Help' key and the brightness +/- on the right side of F14 and F15 keys don't work ( tried with  ⇧,⌥ and ^ )

Please reply  

Thanks in advance. 

PS:

About LCC GUI : 

think the image size balance is weird, either the mouse image is too big, or the keyboard image too small - I can hardly see - apart that it's white - if it's the right keyboard image.  I'd like to be able to view the keyboard in detail.

About general Logitech stuff :

From a leader like Logitech, and if I was a beginner, I would expect to find a complete and detailed explanation of keyboard usage, of what each key does, on the CD and your website. 

BTW, while you're at it - why not make a complete keyboard layout mapping utility ? Like that 'Help' key, I could use that for some thing else…

Keep up the good job ! 

Message Edited by ycc2106 on 02-09-2009 01:57 PM

UPDATE : SORRY ! It is the s530 mouse - now that I've rebooted, MX was fine but when I changed back to s530 - it's slow again

Should I create a new thread?  

Message Edited by ycc2106 on 02-10-2009 12:22 PM

[ojak]

Logitech has been uncomfortably silent on all of these LCC 2.60 issues.  I'd just like to hear someone from Logitech at least come on and say, "Sorry, we're working on it" and "here's when you can expect a software update to make it work"...

I for one am getting rather close to junking all of my Logitech mouse devices since they simply do not work reliably on OSX.  Just out of principle, I'm considering putting a purchase moritorium on all Logitech pointer products at my business.  Although it may only freeze the purchase of a few hundred devices, following up on my indignation may make me feel a bit better.

Logitech, your customers obviously like you, but you're being kinda dickish about these problems.

[friday13]

I purchased a new MX Revolution a few months ago. I quite like the mouse but the software really s-u-c-k-s. I realize that's not constructive feedback but seeing that this post was originally started 2 years ago and with many of the reported problems still unresolved one has to wonder just how serious Logitech is about improving it's products.

After months of frustration, i finally got fed-up. Today i uninstalled LCC and installed SteerMouse -- which thankfully works extremely well.

It's unfortunate that customers have to use 3rd party software, and incur an additional cost, to make your products to work properly. 

Message Edited by friday13 on 02-22-2009 06:31 PM