07-05-2011 04:44 PM
Been working with a MX Revolution for the last 3 years and never stopped raving about it. I mainly work with Max and Autocad and the many programmable buttons though uberoptions made it extremely efficient and confortable for my workflow. Now that the scroll wheel stopped working, I went out and bought a Performance MX. Wow, what a complete letdown... Not only does it lack the 3 functions that the thumbflip provided, I cant even assign the button behind the scroll as MMB as with the Revolution. It wouldnt be so bad if the scroll wheel actually worked as MMB, but it's totally unresponsive and vague feeling, making it completely unusable for the most often used operations : scene navigation. The zoom button is also very hard to feel and reach, being much too close to the others above it. Also tried the G700, but it's not remotely precise enough for what I do. Too bad Logitech had to replace the perfect mouse with a lesser product...
07-11-2011 10:38 AM - edited 07-11-2011 10:44 AM
I agree 100%. If they were to bring it back I'd buy 10. I've tried everything they sell now and nothing comes close. You'd think their marketing department would realize they are selling for as much as $500 on ebay and grab some of that market.
11-05-2011 09:59 AM
I agree!!!! MX revolution is the best mouse I have ever owned, mine's getting old, and I don't like the new Performance MX. Been a long while since anything new has come out from Logitech on the mouse front.
11-05-2011 03:48 PM - edited 11-05-2011 04:13 PM
"I cant even assign the button behind the scroll as MMB as with the Revolution."
As an owner of an MX Revolution - a recent SetPoint update botched that particular feature up. They decided to do a redesign of the driver UI, and SmartShift is now totally borked. They made certain combinations totally impossible that were possible before.
I don't like the new SmartShift acting in a "special" way and overriding the middle mouse button if you change the middle mouse button for a specific app. Shifting modes should be a user assigned function like everything else, and shouldn't be "special" in any way.
I play games, so it does annoy me that it "takes over" everything and I can't remap it on a per-app basis, because some games do in fact use the middle mouse button.
Also, it seems like shifting modes and free-spin at a certain speed are also mutually exclusive. Which also annoys me.
I'm really not certain the new drivers work better than the old ones. I like total control over the behavior of my mouse, and that's really one of the reasons I use the MX.
11-08-2011 02:40 PM
YES!! Please bring it back. I just replaced my 4yo Revolution with a Performance MX and I gotta say, this **bleep**. I've lost functionality, the charging station is gone, it doesn't hold half the charge the Revolution does, and why the heck did the slide scroll (my volume control) have to go???
Looks like I'm going to be buying up as many refurbished Revolutions as I can afford. Really, guys this reeks.
11-10-2011 04:29 PM
Personally, I noticed the MX Revolution was being discontinued and bought the last (I think) one to be found here in Denmark. It is still on my shelf, in mint condition.
My major issue however is to horrible driver quality Logitech has created. The 4.80 with uberOptions is almost perfect but creates severe lag issues (1-3 second on back/forward clicks) and cannot be fixed without a reboot it seems (standby cycle is not enough). The 6.* release completely ruins the MX Revolution main features and hence is worthless.
I am currently testing Mouse-X but it cannot remap all buttons as Windows only knows about 5 of them.
Logitech is really a disappointment here.
I am glad to have used the MX Revolution but it seems I just as well might try other manufacturers in the future. Logitech makes nothing special here anymore.
11-11-2011 06:10 PM - edited 11-11-2011 06:15 PM
I had an MX1000 years ago, and when the LMB developed the double-click problem, I took the plunge and purchased the new MX Revolution. There were some things I didn't like about the new mouse. Such as the thumb "wheel" being too far forward for my small hand to effectively use, and loosing the document search button inbetween the back and forward buttons (which I used as my push-to-talk button in various VoIP apps).
Even with these problems, the new features of the Revolution sold me. I love the SmartScroll wheel, and is the best new thing with the mouse. So all-in-all it felt like a good upgrade from the MX1000 to the MX Revolution.
Now several years on, my MX revolution is starting to develop the same left-click problem, and thinking of upgrading to next version of MX mouse, the Performance MX. All I've read about the mouse seems like a downgrade, not an upgrade.
Removing features that are part of my muscle memory for the sake of what? Simplicity? The main issue I have is with the scroll wheel, why remove the SmartShift wheel? It doesn't seem like there are any mechanical problems with the wheel.
As my mouse has had many problems with it, which have worsened with the age of it, such as, LMB double clicking, degrading battery life, some wireless connection issues. But the Scroll Wheel feels as smooth as the day I bought it.
Also the new way of charging the mouse seems like a step forward in some ways and a step back in others. Yes the ability to recharge "on-the-go" is a great idea, but to be honest I've never used my mouse to the point where the battery has died and had to recharge it, this with me being a hardcore gamer as well. So the idea of trying to hunt down a cable, and fiddling about with it trying to plug it in to keep the mouse battery topped up after every session, seems counter intuitive after using a recharging cradle for so many years.
The ability to use the mouse on glass/leg/trouser is great, but for most people upgrading from a Revolution, this is a non-issue, as we're probably content, for the most part, using the mouse on a mat or non-glass surface. So this new feature hardly makes up for the loss of the scroll wheel SmartShifting technology.
And from what I've read up on, the button below the scroll wheel is just a mechanical button which switches the wheel from click-scroll to free-scroll, and so cannot be programmed to another use. This is appalling, as on the Revolution and presumably on the Performance the scroll wheel MMB function is horrid, but on the Revolution I could reprogram the button below the wheel to be the MMB.
The ideal solution would be a merger of the two mice:
- Bring back the old scroll wheel, and have the scroll-click button be the scroll mode select button. So by default the mouse wheel would be in SmartShift mode, push the scroll wheel in once would switch it to click-scroll, push again to get to free-scroll, and push once again to get back to SmartShift.
-Keep the button below the scroll wheel, but have it act as the MMB by default, and the ability to reprogram it if neccessary.
-Thumb buttons, have a mixture of the two versions' buttons. So back and forward buttons, zoom button (programmable), and a programmable thumb button hidden under the rubber padding. Thumb "wheel" rocker with programmable actions and adjustable sensitivity levels.
-As for the recharger, use the best of both worlds. So you would have the the docking cradle as with the Revolution, but the cable that connects it is plugged into a mini usb port on the back of the cradle. And keep the usb port on the front of the mouse. So in day to day use, you can just sit the mouse in the cradle to recharge, but if you run out of power and still need to use the mouse, just unplug the cable from the back of the cradle and plug it into the mouse so you can recharge it while using it. This way people who prefer a cradle can use it, or not use it, and saves having a loose cable snaking across your desk.
-Obviously use the new Darkfield laser.
-Optional on-the-fly DPI switching buttons. Although this would put the mouse more into the gaming mouse category, as opposed to general use, but would be a nice function to include nonetheless.
Now this would be a positive upgrade to the MX series than the poor Performance MX we have now.
On another note, have there been any official responses from the Logitech designers/community reps on the design issues we have with Performance MX? Or if there are any plans in the pipeline for an upgraded MX mouse in the future?
11-14-2011 02:39 AM
I sort of agree with the design issue with the MX Revolution. The thumbwheel is too far away to be reachable for me and hence I have never used it. Move it 2 cm closer to the thumb and it may be usable. I have the same issue with the forward button and thus both forward and backward buttons should be moved slightly back. More buttons could be attached, e.g. to the left of the LMB and to the right of the RMB but that would be good for games mostly (and design apps). But the SmartShift needs to stay.
11-29-2011 11:12 AM
PLEASE, I'm begging you, once you get used to 11 buttons, nothing ever feels the same. I bought four of these, and just recently lost a reciever to one, and broke another leaving me w/ mine, and my wifes... (took one to work, and had a spare).
I'm now down to 1 mouse. 1, that is totally not cool. I NEED these mice like I need air. I'm about to go pay crazy $ on ebay for a 2nd revolution. no new mouse seems to fit like the revolution did.
Seriously, if you changed nothing but that giant reciever, that mouse would sell tons if only by people replacing their prior ones.
BRING BACK THE REVOLUTION!
Bring me to mousing freedom!