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deceneu
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Re: Setpoint 4.70.213 does not keep Game Detection Enabled

I managed to install Setpoint 4.70 and it's everything ok now. I have renamed that process which is multiplying and I haven't touched any settings in the game tab. everything runs sort of stable right now as it remembers the same sensitivity settings after reboot.

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DamageInc
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Re: Setpoint 4.70.213 does not keep Game Detection Enabled

I wonder if that would work for my problem too...
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sky43
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Re: Setpoint 4.70.213 does not keep Game Detection Enabled

well same here speed increase in game that impossiblto play i goback to 4.6. shame on you logitech
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deceneu
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Re: Setpoint 4.70.213 does not keep Game Detection Enabled

with 4.60 I have no tabs in setpoint...weird...I'm sticking with 4.70 for a while.
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DamageInc
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Re: Setpoint 4.70.213 does not keep Game Detection Enabled

Hey everyone,

 I also contacted Dutch Support like two days ago and I got a reply.

First of all remember that it's about my problem that the settings wouldn't load at startup.
(But only when I'd have visited and exited the settings.)
But I'll ask about these other things too, since the problem is solved
 and possible they might also know a solution to the other problems.

Anyway, I'll describe what I've done and why,
 which might be an obvious things to do for the more experienced people.
However, I believe I was never told to do this ever with anything else, so to me it was kind of unusual.


So, I was told that "there might be a so-called tab-problem", whatever that might be.
And that the cause of this frequently lies with security-software, mostly ones such as 'AVG', 'Norton' and 'Spyware Doctor'.
(Even though my software would be NOD32 and I also deactivated it, it still only worked this way.)
What they do is "block the correct installation of SetPoint without any notification".
And also that "the cause is rarely in SetPoint itself".

Then, "this can be solved with an installtion in "clean startup" mode".
Which completely prevents any software such as security-applications to load.
This is what you need to do:

 - Remove SetPoint by using 'Software' in 'Control Panel'.
 - Go to 'Start' and 'Run'.
 - Type 'msconfig' and Enter or click 'OK'.
 - On the first tab 'General(?)' click the last radio-button for 'Selected startup(?)'.
 - Remove all checks before the options that appear, except for 'Load system-services into memory(?)'.
 - Click the tab 'Services'.
 - Check the option 'Hide all Microsoft-services(?)'.
 - Click the button 'Deactivate all/everything(?)'.
 - Click 'OK' and restart the system by clicking the corresponding button in the window that pops up.
 - When restarted, install SetPoint.
 - After installing you can go back into 'msconfig' and reset the changes by selecting 'Normal boot(?)'.

Note that everything that has a question-mark might be called differently in English.
Since I have Windows in Dutch, and also the e-mail was in Dutch, I had to translate everything.
Also note that I use 'Windows XP' and I don't know if it would be much different in 'Windows Vista'.
But I'm sure it's quite similar and you could find the equivalents of these instructions.

Now all I need is to get 'Game Detection' working.
Well, it's active here, but it doesn't do much with different games...



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erevo
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Re: Setpoint 4.70.213 does not keep Game Detection Enabled

Thats exact the same thing the german support told me. Let me add for vista X64 Sp1 that you may be, after setting msconfig to normal boot, you can't boot anymore with an error 0xC000000E winload.exe. (That happened to me)

 

This is may be a vista bug, however it seems, that the boot configuration of the standard boot drive is lost. If you read here some threads you will read, that some useres are angry because they had to do a new system setup... so i think this is also related to my expirience.

 

What you should have, before you do a clean install is the Vista CD from which you can boot or a norton Ghost rescue system (Vista PE).

Do not a repair from the Vista CD! What you have to do is in the repair menu to open the dos prompt.

 

 From the Dos you call bcdedit.exe which liss the bootentries.

In the second part of this list you will see two entries:

device  partition=C:

osdevice partition=C:

where C: is your boot drive where winload.exe is located in \windows\system32

 

If you have behind device and osdevice no, or other entries just set them to your boot drive:

bcdedit set {current} device partition=C:

bcdedit set {current} osdevice partition=C:

 

Now you can reboot and Vista should be able to boot again.

 

 

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Retow
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Re: Setpoint 4.70.213 does not keep Game Detection Enabled

Vista x64 Ultimate

G5

Clean format / clean install

 

Issue persists game detection settings are reset to defaults on form load

user.xml reflects the options on form are not persistant

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panaiz
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Re: Setpoint 4.70.213 does not keep Game Detection Enabled

i have the same problem with everyone on this thread.. 'Setpoint 4.70.213 does not keep Game Detection Enabled'

user of windows vista 64 + setpoint 4.70.213 + mx 5500

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DamageInc
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Re: Setpoint 4.70.213 does not keep Game Detection Enabled

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You know, I wonder how much percent of the users it's not staying enabled and how much it's simply working.
Mine is working, at least it was and stays enabled, but I do have other issues then...

However, if mine DOES work and so for many people it doesn't,
 I wonder what must be on my computer that lets it work.
I mean, this thing is like a mix of parts of say 2 to 7 years old,
 so say generally about 5 years old.
And I've had it running in "one install" for like 2 years now, even though I (try to) keep it clean.
And the thing is stuffed with all kinds of software too.

I reckon that the more stuff is on a computer (and also the longer it's used),
 the better it work, as in the "more compatible" it gets.
Same thing as my previous computer, I could play ANYTHING on it, like media and such.
The moment I switched my files to this newer and better computer, I could barely play anything.
Also, I recently used someone's brand new laptop, the thing would barely work. :smileyfrustrated:

So, that's just what it seems like to me...

Message Edited by DamageInc on 12-21-2008 06:30 AM
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Re: Setpoint 4.70.213 does not keep Game Detection Enabled

"I reckon that the more stuff is on a computer (and also the longer it's used),
 the better it work, as in the "more compatible" it gets.
Same thing as my previous computer, I could play ANYTHING on it, like media and such.
The moment I switched my files to this newer and better computer, I could barely play anything.
Also, I recently used someone's brand new laptop, the thing would barely work. :smileyfrustrated:"

 

Whilst I would love you to be correct, software is not like machinery and does not have (nor should it need) a 'wearing in' period! :smileyhappy:

 

I can understand from your experiences why you would think so, but that is just NOT how it works I'm afraid!

 

It is possible that their could be some common combination of applications that is interfering with SetPoint and causing the problem, but I am not about to go uninstalling programs that I use everyday just to find out when we have no idea where to start.

 

Unless Logitech bother to get back to us with some helpful information (ie, things to check that don't involve a clean uninstall and reinstall of Setpoint, as we KNOW that doesn't work!) we are very unlikely to figure this out.