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DDave
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Registered: ‎09-10-2008

TrackBall TrackMan gaming grade mouse

Anyone who hasn't been indoctrinated by the paltry performance of a standard mouse can see how unbelievably superior the TrackBall TrackMan mouse is.

Despite this fact, because of the weak competition in this market there is still room for huge advancements: one of which being the introduction of a gaming grade version of this mouse.

As Logitech is far and away the leader in the gaming grade mouse market, is it not an obvious evolution to extend this dominance to another member of it's own line?

The previous incarnation of this mouse (the TrackBall Marble I believe) was much larger/wider and fit the dimensions of a male hand much better. Since this would be a large portion of the market a gaming grade mouse would be aimed at I believe it is important to consider.

The ergonomics of the new TrackBall TrackMan are fantastic if you have a petite hand.

Why not combine the best aspects of both? Increase the size, make it slightly wider, add x amount of extra buttons and release an optical and a laser version of a gaming grade TrackBall mouse (the T-series to compliment the G-series?)?

I for one, would immediately purchase 3 if these ever hit the market. 1 for home, 1 for work, and 1 just in case.

This is my first visit to the Logitech forums, and I registered specifically for this post. I hope it's possible to hear some feedback on this topic.
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CJChew
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Registered: ‎06-21-2007

Re: TrackBall TrackMan gaming grade mouse

Hi:smileyhappy:,
 
Sounds like a good idea. Admittedly, the best I can do about this is to forward the suggestion to our Engineering Department and hope there's enough demand for this idea to be considered.
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Wespe
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Registered: ‎03-08-2009

Re: TrackBall TrackMan gaming grade mouse

I googled Trackman Gaming mouse and this thread came up. This would be a dream come true if the trackman marble was "upgraded" into a gaming mouse.

 

I can't use anything but a Trackman marble (usb of course) since I picked one up nearly 8 years ago. In that time the design has only changed once, and it wasn't much of a change. I think a mouse wheel was added and it went from a off white to a silver metallic colour. 

 

This Trackman is due for an overhaul, especially with all the new gaming mice on the market. As the above poster mentioned I think you'd have a real winner if you created a gaming version of this mouse. Even if you only added a few more buttons to it I'd run out and buy two myself. I've always kept two marble trackman on hand because I get so worried they will be discontinued.

 

 

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stormhills
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Registered: ‎03-08-2009

Re: TrackBall TrackMan gaming grade mouse

I Came to this site for this same reason, i play world of Warcraft and use a trackman marble mouse, but wish it had more buttons on it. So i thought i would post and here a fellow gamer already has. The trackball is the only way to game in my opinion, i have used my mine for years without a single problem. but seriously how slow are you guys to look to gaming for this mouse? there are none worth a #%%# on the market, it seems untapped, a trackball mouse with 8 to 10 buttons on it, 3 could easily be placed on ea side beneath the main left and right buttons. you watch. make it. and i'll make you rich!!! hehe, not that you arent already are. thanks for listening!!!

 

 

Storm

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Random54
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Registered: ‎07-07-2008

Re: TrackBall TrackMan gaming grade mouse

I'd also like to add my support for the idea of a gaming grade trackball.  I've been a competitive FPS player since the release of unreal tournament in 1999.  I was convinced to switch to a trackball due to one of the top players at the time (overtoad) using one as part of the PantherXL joystick.  I have tried most trackballs on the market from the Microsoft Trackball Optical (paid $200 on eBay recently for a new one), a few Kensington's (all finger based like the expert mouse) and I have consistently found the Trackman Wheel to be the best.  The Trackman Wheel's ball has the least mass so reaction speeds for turning are better & the ability to hold buttons down while turning is also key.  

 

So despite this currently being the best gaming trackball on the market it does have some huge flaws.  The biggest being the sensor technology is archaic.  Back in 2001-2003 this mouse could compete against the other mice on the market and my aim was considered among the very best in the north American UT competitive TDM/DM community (I was never a top 10 1v1 player but I was decent and I don't think there was a single top 10 1v1 player who could touch my aim).  Today's mouse technology is much more accurate and has resulted in smaller hitboxes for FPS games.  This means in order to have great aim with the trackman I would have to turn the sensitivity down to a point that restricts my turning ability because the mouse will not track fast enough.  As a result I now have to keep my sensitivity higher than I would like and my aim is no longer something I am known for.  I have tried going back to using a mouse (tried both Logitech G9 and Razer Lachesis) and found that even though I can snipe better with both than the Trackman I can't match the recovery time of a trackball on 180 degree spins and rapid left, right, left right motions due to the mass of the mouse vs. the ball.

 

Other things gamers would appreciate if it was to be marketed as a gaming mouse:

 

A couple more buttons are always appreciated, especially for game types other than fps.

 

It would also be nice to have 1000Hz ultra polling (overclocking past 500Hz results in inconsistent button response).

 

On the fly dpi adjustment would be great assuming there is a high dpi sensor in the trackball

 

Adjustable size like the Saitek Cyborg or to a lesser degree the Logitech G9 (this would make more than just gamers happy)

 

A wireless version with some responsive modern wireless technology.

 

 There used to be a small but rabid group of gamers that used trackballs.  Mouse users used to switch to trackballs for the advantages.  Since the invention of gaming grade mice starting with the Razer Boomslang, this migration has not only stopped but reversed.  With how seriously today's gamer takes his input devices (we're buying keyboards with 1000Hz ultrapolling and mouse pads with their own cases) I'm positive there is a market for these especially in the growing gaming laptop community where desk space is often at a premium.

 

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Pa1nkiller
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Registered: ‎05-09-2009

Re: TrackBall TrackMan gaming grade mouse

I would also like to add a request for a gaming trackball. The current logitch trackballs aren't smooth enough and slow movements of the trackball result in short, jerky movements of the cursor/crosshair. Extra buttons & turbo/rapid fire switches would be handy too.
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eman008
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Registered: ‎06-17-2009

Re: TrackBall TrackMan gaming grade mouse

I agree with everyone in here.  I do a lot of gaming on PC and lately my wrist and even my whole arm have been hurting more and more.  I'm really considering switching to a trackball but none of the ones I can find look to be for gaming.  It's not the end of the world and I plan on buying one, but if Logitech made a gaming trackball that would be awesome!! I couldn't imagine any other company doing as good of a job.  The market for something like this is extremely untapped.  I'm sure a product like this would sell more than some of the other mice Logitech has made in the past so the time would be worth it.

 

Thanks!

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Random54
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Registered: ‎07-07-2008

Re: TrackBall TrackMan gaming grade mouse

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At the time of this post the original post in this thread had been viewed 1,403 times.  Assuming most people who viewed this are interested in a gaming grade trackman does this qualify as interest?  

 

Does the fact that older no longer produced products by logitech and Microsoft (such as the Microsoft trackball optical) selling for well over $100 new and even close to $100 for used on eBay not show that there is interest in other products besides the current offerings?  Do the huge price tags of these products not suggest that you could easily make and sell more expensive trackballs?

 

 

The Logitech trackman wheel boasts "Optical Marble® technology: Smooth, ultra-precise tracking. No maintenance required"  Really? Maybe in 2002 this was true but is there a mouse made by any manufacturer today that is less precise than this product?  It really should be advertised as "You're only option if u want to use your thumb".

 

Message Edited by Random54 on 08-25-2009 11:53 PM
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Random54
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Re: TrackBall TrackMan gaming grade mouse

Alright so since my last post has been viewed over 200 times in this thread I've gotta ask.  If you're looking at this thread and want a gaming grade trackball why not post you're opinion?  If you don't want a gaming grade trackball why are you looking at this thread?
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Zed273
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Registered: ‎01-28-2008

Re: TrackBall TrackMan gaming grade mouse

There was a long multi-page thread on this from a few years ago that I posted in.  Many people echoed OP's sentiments and still no updated trackball product.

 

As I posted there, I would buy an updated thumb-operated gaming-grade trackball in a hearbeat.

 

I understand it is all a demand game.  I wish there was some way to prove to the engineers that there is demand for this.  How many former trackball users have switched to competitors' gaming mice because of the lack of features on the trackman?  Hard to tell.  But hopefully the product development guys don't use existing trackman sales as an indicator of the potential trackball market.  I'm sure there are many that would switch back from a mouse to a trackball if given a viable gaming option.

 

My two cents.