05-29-2012 02:33 AM
I recently had my G27 wheel start going out of alignment.
It would change alignment when steering against force feedback, only by 1/8th of a turn out and would change back when i turn the opposite direction (playing GT5)
So I pulled it apart after viewing this thread.
Hope the pic works. 1st timne Ive used this forum.
My sensor disc has 3 hairline cracks in it. (2 can be seen in the photo). It is still secured to the shaft and does not spin freely.
Guess now I have to try and find a new sensor disk.
05-29-2012 02:52 AM
Also thanks TheAnimaster
I have now sent an email to CM Laser Services regarding the new encoder wheel.
They advertise on their site the replacement parts, but dont have a picture unfortunately.
I did notice that the say they usually do orders of 3 units to 5000 units. Did you have to buy 3 wheels?
I hope to here from them soon with a price.
Thank you to all who posted in this thread. It has helped.
05-29-2012 10:46 AM
You plan to buy in bulk and sell them to all who need them? That's be a good idea and I was thinking about doing the same thing and I was also thinking it'd be a good idea to offer to repair them on some online auction sites. I have a lot of free time and know how to do the repair work, but I don't have the brass wheels. Could also branch out to other wheels like that momo wheel and the G25 if they also have the same flaws. But that's just an idea, I haven't put anything in motion yet, so anyone is welcome to the idea, so long as they can offer quality work and fast shipping times.. But I don't think many people can offer as fast of shipping as I could seeing as the post office is right up the street from my house and I have a ton of free time lol. But as I said, this isn't offering a service, it's just an idea.
06-16-2012 08:12 AM - edited 06-16-2012 08:16 AM
(sorry for the late reply) the fitting was ~very~ tight, so I had to file it down, just a TEENY bit (be careful when doing this!). You do need to constantly try to refit the piece after a little bit of careful filing. I guess I spent less than five minutes filing and fitting it. In the end I think I may have filed it a bit too much -- which is why I strongly suggest exercising caution.
In the end though, I didn't put anything -- no glue. It stays on alright, just that mine 'slips' if you try to turn the motorshaft by turning the encoder. On a really tight fit (prior to filing) you can turn the motorshaft, but this is with the encoder stuck at the tip of the shaft (ie: needs to be filed enough to slip down the shaft into the right position).
07-21-2012 03:54 AM - edited 07-21-2012 10:46 AM
GREAT NEWS FOR OUT OF WARRANTY REPAIRS!
I have finished installing and testing my brass encoder and it works like a charm!
It's doubtful I'll ever need top open up my G27 again.
Here's what I did:
1. Got a replacement from http://cmlaserservice.com/
2. Opened up my G27 and removed the cracked encoder wheel
3. Dabbed a bit of '''epoxy*''' on the brass replacement to secure it to the shaft
4. Re-assembled and tested rigorously with full FFB effects
*NOTE: Make sure you test the controller before securing with epoxy or other glue, as the encoder may need to be adjusted slightly up or down along the motor shaft to get the desired effect. Turning your controller on and connecting to a USB port will trigger the self-centering routine. If that passed and the wheel is centered, you have succeded. Otherwise, move the brass wheel a bit further up the shaft towards the black sensor and try again. Mine worked perfect the first time round because I positioned my replacement on the exact spot as my old encoder.
07-21-2012 01:19 PM
Cool! Good to hear it worked out well. I've figured out a way to delay the problem, just adjust the settings to that nothing is over 50%, so I've got everything set to 30% and the centering spring set to 40% and it's held up to beating NFSMW and I'm over half way into NFSC (in one sitting (yeah, I had a lot of free time lol)) and between them I play a little of NFSU2 and NFS Shift. So far so good with no problems to note yet. I just don't like to be able to feel the holes where the screws are behind the leather and for the price I paid for the wheel, I expected more... quality.... but other than that it's all good so far.
That is a nice brass wheel but why charge so much for it if the demand for it is so high? Normally when demand goes up, the price falls a bit unless the seller is just greedy. I'll hold off on buying one until my wheel starts to fail on me and hopefully by then the price will have fallen a little. However, it's good to know that someone is able to make a replacement wheel.
Who knows, maybe I just got a good one this time.
07-21-2012 01:36 PM - edited 07-21-2012 01:57 PM
Why should we? Do you think people are so ignorant they don't know that opening their wheel will void their warranty or is Logitech planning on making something to fix the problem and they want the money? Well I'll say this and leave it at that, stop being so greedy and start being more human, we are only trying to help others seeing as the maker of the wheel doesn't seem to really care about the buyer. So to but it simply, please refrain from being an @$$ like illogitech and as far as I remember we all have the freedom of speech and there is nothing you or anyone else can do about that because it'd be unconstitutional to try to restrict what we can can't say or where we can and can not say things. We have rights and I prefer to use them to the fullest.
07-21-2012 01:39 PM
That sounds like a logical solution since a lower FFB setting would mean less heat dissipation and less chances of the wheel breaking. However, it feels like a needless trade-off to me; having to sacrifice full enjoyment out of breakage risk. It seems pointless to me personally because it wasn't designed to not work at 100%. It's like saying that i will drive my new car at 50km/h top speed so the wheels dont fall off Now tell me who would wanna buy such a car...
If it breaks under warranty then sending it in for repairs/replacement would be right thing to do. But if you are out of warranty (like most G25 and an increasing number of G27 I would imagine) and your encoder is failing, then a bronze replacement could be the answer. Personally I was disappointed because I sold my working G25 to upgrade to a failing G27. A €350 wheel all gone to waste because a small component fails...