11-21-2011 09:55 AM
So let me sum up:
1. The update is definitely coming to the Revue.
2. The update is definitely not coming to the Revue.
3. Logitech, a company with >$2B in sales and ~$400M in cash, will die a slow death from the Revue debacle.
4. Logitech should be ashamed of itself.
5. Nobody, to date, has remained on the topic initiated in this thread's original post.
Did I miss anything? Can we let it go now?
11-21-2011 12:00 PM
Man i for one don't unstand all drama over this update.. the product is a good product .is it a pc device no and it wasn't meant to be.. can it play every flavor of codec ? no it can't but no box can as far as i know with the lic cost going thur the roof..should they have got sign off for content provider before releasing ..yea maybe..Now as to why the update taking so long there a couple reason .. google delayed it for ever.. then logitech needed to test it to maysure it don't break what is working...once they push it out.. is logitech end of life the device a good thing.. for logitech ..yes for us the buyer it still not clear...but i suspect at somepoint the device will be open sourced to allow dev of more stuff ..maybe..but we stil in the seed stage of media player devices haven't event gotten to the bady stage yet.. 5 years from now.. it will be builtin to every thing you buy..
11-21-2011 08:02 PM
Man i for one don't unstand all drama over this update.. the product is a good product .is it a pc device no and it wasn't meant to be.. can it play every flavor of codec ? no it can't but no box can as far as i know with the lic cost going thur the roof..should they have got sign off for content provider before releasing ..yea maybe..
"The Product is a good product" -> Google TV is a good product, but only with the marketplace. The standard Revue as they have sold it is terible and FULL of bugs. Apps lock up, restart it all the time, (websites) block it all over the place. You can't even get Hulu to work on it. The Google TV update is what has been promissed for so long and once that is out I think everyone will be happy with it.
Now as to why the update taking so long there a couple reason .. google delayed it for ever..
Google tried to make sure that TV 2.0 was a good product. They communicated the delays through blog posts. That kept us understanding the delays. It made sense. BUT then Google released the final code, Logitech for sure got a copy well before Google released it to everyone else. Obviously Sony did and they made good on their promiss to get the update released. Logitech on the other hand sarcastically states "next few weeks", "by the end of the year [which year TBD]", then "were killing the product".
then logitech needed to test it to maysure it don't break what is working...once they push it out.. is logitech end of life the device a good thing.. for logitech ..yes for us the buyer it still not clear...
How could this be good for the customer? We will get whatever they deliver, whenever they want, with no updates to progress, while everyone else raves about their Sony that is running on the new update.
but i suspect at somepoint the device will be open sourced to allow dev of more stuff ..maybe..
We'll keep our fingers crossed, but from what I have ready, if you try to load the actual Google release of Google TV, there is a good chance that the hardware will brick and be useless forever. So we are trapped in this closed walled garden with no updates from Logitech.
but we stil in the seed stage of media player devices haven't event gotten to the bady stage yet.. 5 years from now.. it will be builtin to every thing you buy..
Totally agreed, Google TV will be an exciting future for TV. I am developing for the platform, and I love the Google TV experience (post the new update) with marketplace. It is starting to be integrated into flat screens as the core OS of the TV and that will be an amazing experience. Pushing Apps to the TV is as big of a disruptor to the TV industry as iPhone/Smartphone was to the cell phone. It is huge.
Logitech has completely failed at executing this product. They put a lot of things into their marketing that simply sern't true. They oversold the product and then abandoned it with a pour explaination of what will hapen to all of us customers that bought it. They should have simply made a way (a PDF with directions) for general users to simply install the core Google TV update, without and extra (Logitech Player) on it. The origional one was BETA and it should have been called Alpha. On my video library the google search fails 4 out of 5 times to (search) for a video on my NAS drive running DLNA. Then when running, it stops and freezes at random places. You have to kill the Media Player app and start over with the movie or use thier SLOW forward option to queue back to where you are. The should scrap that and allow developers like Plex to have an app for their service in the marketplace.
I finally bought a Sony version this week. It has a Bluray player in it and it had the update 2 weeks ago. Its great. It works like a charm, its fast, it plays BlueRay, and it shows that a company can get the software out in a timely fashion.
Origional Subject: "Has your Logitech Revue been updated"
No, No, No, and I have no idea of when exaclty it will. I heard by end of the year, but I don't believe that.
Just open it up so that we can install a standard version of Google TV without any bloat wear that does not work and is unsupported. That is only fair for all us customers who did pay ment for the product.
Google TV is a great product with a great future. Logitech is yesterdays also ran.
11-22-2011 03:56 PM
In my opinion, the writing is on the wall. I own several Logitech products (Harmony, Keyboards, Revue, and others). From all the news that I have been hearing, Logitech is nearing total collapse. Whatever the reason, everything seems to be a drag on their bottom line. Name one product that is a "must have" for this xmas season? Even the expensive Harmony remotes have the most outdated software. Its a great idea, but now you can get solutions that are 100 times better and run on your Android or iPhone. They cost a fraction of the amount that a Logitech costs and have updates and new features coming out every month.
For the Revue, there is (maybe) one person working on it, probably a freelancer hired off eLance. Come on, hackers leaked previous versions in less than a week. Logitech is dumping the product and the developer team is already WAY gone. My bet is that the update "might" come by years end, it will be full of bugs, and then Logitech will go out of business. They may even do that before the update is released so you can scream all you like about "false advertising", but nobody will be left to listen.
It's truly pathetic that a Logitech rep even came on this forum and posted "Logitech never providers release dates". That makes no sense in today's technology world. Just say "we will fix it if and when we want to Mr. Customer. We have no real interest in you now that you have paid us your money.".
I made a terrible choice in buying the Logic Revue. The absolute worst choice that I have ever made when purchasing a tech item. I should have purchased the Sony version.
My fault, I guess I am now stuck with a $200 paper weight that I will hang on my wall to remind me A) never, ever, ever, buy logitech again... and B) always spend weeks vetting your technology selection.
Logitech, you should be ASHAMED, PERIOD. I hope nobody else is taken by your Scam.
Ok I know this is a slight troll.... but does everyone really think that Logitech makes all their money from high end remotes and google TV? I'm in no way a Logitech fan boy, but looking at my desk I see a Logitech G15 Keyboard, Logitech G5 Mouse, Logitech Orb Webcam, and Logitech Speakers. If you were to spend a min and walk through my office, almost every computer has a Logitech keyboard/mouse combo. While their high end products might be irritating to some, their bottom line comes from these simple and economical devices. The $12 keyboard and $5 mouse are the bread and butter of Logitech. So while they might shut down their GTV department Logitech will continue on as they always have.
By the by, even without the update, I love my GoogleTV. As a matter of fact, this post has been written on mine. For those of you complaining about codec compatibility, and crashing, and what have you; I say that's user error. My Revue has been solid! It hasn't crashed once, and has even survived the beating of my 9 month old. While I'm excited for the update, it's still a good product right out of the box.
11-24-2011 07:15 AM - edited 11-24-2011 07:24 AM
I thinks perhaps the main issues is that Android enthusiasts have become accustomed to a product that evolves and remains fresh, that we can customize and change as the platform evolves, either changed by the OEM or the community. But main point being is evolves to remain a fresh product. I have an HTC EVO that if I had the original software I would be bored bored bored with. But with tinkering with even non root options, we can change it and modify to our liking, whenever we get a new product that is worth our exploring. I think any true Android fan shares this interest in some way.
Which leads to the issue Logitech may not have been expecting. Especially when they brag about the "FREE" update, like we are apple or microsoft goons that expect to repay for software on the same device. I think they fully expected, and still do expect, that a release is a release, a finished product. Hence the delay over honeycomb past Sony, I think they are trying to prepare a release that is "done", as if an android product is ever to be called "done". We would never be satisfied with a "done" product. But in a request of sorts, if Logitech chooses to remain as they have been, not true android developers, please just say the following: "If you root your device, we will not warrant you. We have made it possible, do what you wish with that warning. In the spirit of Android, we will be allowing what we are unwilling or able to do. We have released the drivers and source code for our devices to be used as you wish outside of the support of Logitech. Enjoy"
done deal. no more complaining, those who want "done" have done, those who want android have what we always desired. Everyone moves on.
Then, just because they love us, release a real inexpensive input that we can add to our revues to accept a coax input, so we can use full function just like on the sony tv.
11-25-2011 08:10 AM - edited 11-25-2011 08:11 AM
I don't think the update will solve the main problem. The software is good but the hardware has problems. Two mistakes: No power switch, and the device does not provide passive pass thru when the device is inoperable. These design flaws speak of arrogance. If you put your device between other components, you better be sure your mistakes don't mess up everyone else.
11-25-2011 12:38 PM
Hello Everyone: People is getting crazy for the update to watch hulu and other apps. I would like to see the product improvements with the update. But for me the revue is very good product for the price. As i live Outside USA still for me value more than US$100 bucks. I have a free dns to access pandora.com and some other sites that have restrictions. I used playon to test netflix, hulu and some other sites but for me is not worthy for the way of searching the stuffs. I got some nice sites to watch the latest tv shows and movies.
The site i daily watch are:
http://www.yourtvseries.net/ some shows are missing but for those i got another site. I love this site cause it has update every single day for free and also has 720p to watcth the shows.
The other site to watch more shows and movies http://tv.blinkx.com/ This one has the shows missing in the previous site.
I got other sites to watch movies in spanish and english if you would like to test them just let me know.
11-25-2011 08:13 PM