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fuzzel
Posts: 1
Registered: ‎12-17-2012

(GPL'd) source code with build details for Logitech Alert 700e camera's

Hi,

 

From what I have played with it the hardware of the Logitech Alert 700e is excellent and very well enclosed too, we'll see over the winter how well it lasts though with the snow we get there.

 

I am missing some features though that I would really like (IPv6) and especially as the documentation about controlling it is also very scarce, that is, only to be found at third-parties.

 

Given the following output and the obvious indication that the Logitech Alert 700e is running Linux, where can we find the GPL source for this?

It is not on http://opensource.logitech.com where it likely should be.

Note that none of the booklets that come with the device mention anything about GPL, which it likely should have.
Please resolve this issue by providing details, I would especially be interrested in adding IPv6 support for these devices.

Thanks!

$ nmap -O 198.18.99.204

Starting Nmap 6.00 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2012-12-17 13:46 CET
Nmap scan report for 198.18.99.204
Host is up (0.0041s latency).
Not shown: 995 closed ports
PORT     STATE SERVICE
554/tcp  open  rtsp
5000/tcp open  upnp
5222/tcp open  xmpp-client
5800/tcp open  vnc-http
5802/tcp open  vnc-http-2
MAC Address: 00:12:AB:20:5B:25 (WiLife)
Device type: general purpose
Running: Linux 2.6.X
OS CPE: cpe:/o:linux:kernel:2.6
OS details: Linux 2.6.9 - 2.6.31
Network Distance: 1 hop

OS detection performed. Please report any incorrect results at http://nmap.org/submit/ .
Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 4.63 seconds
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jc1990
Posts: 4,398
Registered: ‎08-02-2012

Re: (GPL'd) source code with build details for Logitech Alert 700e camera's

Hi fuzzel,

I completely understand your point of view fuzzel and I will be more than glad to help you with any concern about our Logitech Alert Commander.

 

Currently, our Logitech Alert Commander and Cameras are not supported for Linux operating systems, they are only available for MAC and Windows Computers.


What I can do for you is to send your request to our product specialist since we really appreciate these kind of comments because they are the ones that make us improve day by day.

We will move this post to the correct forum, that way the correct department can take your feedback into consideration.

Thank you a lot for your feedback fuzzel.

Kind regards,

Camacho
Logitech Support Specialist.

Kind regards,

Camacho
Support Specialist

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Pitr
Posts: 1
Registered: ‎12-19-2012

Re: (GPL'd) source code with build details for Logitech Alert 700e camera's

Hi,

 

Fuzzel's request is quite simple: the Logitech Alert 700e is a Linux-based camera. Linux is free to use and if you re-distribute it, you must provide the modifications you made under the GPL license.

 

You can read more on this subject on this website: http://gpl-violations.org/faq/vendor-faq.html

 

Kind regards,

 

Pitr

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rvdm
Posts: 1
Registered: ‎12-19-2012

Re: (GPL'd) source code with build details for Logitech Alert 700e camera's

Hi,

 

Cool! Didn't know the 700e was running Linux. If it was mentioned in the documentation, that would have helped :smileyhappy:

 

I'm also very interested in the source code. Where can I download it?

 

Robert

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fuz-zel
Posts: 5
Registered: ‎12-19-2012

Re: (GPL'd) source code with build details for Logitech Alert 700e camera's

Hi Again,

 

It seems magically that my account 'fuzzel' with which I posted the first message does not work anymore, even password requests/reminders etc don't result in any answer, according to the instructions shown though that might indicate it is blocked, that is rather odd.

 

Fortunately I have this old account still, thus I'll use that for this reply so that we can keep on communicating on this important issue.

 

In reply to the support person:

 

> I completely understand your point of view

 

Obviously you do not understand it, it is not about where the software runs, it is about what software runs on the camera device itself.

 

Obviously you are providing a standardized question. This is not a standardized question.

 

Please redirect this question to your manager's manager's manager, there somewhere somebody will understand this request. 

 

> We will move this post to the correct forum, that way the correct department can take your feedback into consideration.

 

The correct department is likely the LEGAL department, as they have to rectify not abiding to the legal consequences of the GPL.

 

 

As a side-note, for people having Linux as their operating system, https://github.com/szatmary/iAlert gives basic functionality to use the camera (though no motion detection etc).

 

And as a side-note for your legal department: the Linux kernel is not the only identified component under the GPL, when the device boots up a program called 'udchp' does the DHCP request. udhcp is part of busybox, thus it is very likely that the rest of busybox is also on the camera. As such, we have a lot of GPL code on their and, I, as a owner of a camera am requesting to get access to the FULL buildable source code.

 

Thus dear support person, please escalate this simple request to the appropriate level in your organization.

 

Thanks and have a nice day,

 Jeroen

 

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Quiliro
Posts: 1
Registered: ‎12-27-2012

Re: (GPL'd) source code with build details for Logitech Alert 700e camera's

So, Mr.Camacho, did you escalate this question to the legal department? They probably know that you are obliged to give to the users the source code to all GPL and other free (as in freedom) software that is included in the camera. Note that I am not reffering to any software that is not packaged with your product.

 

Thank you for your attention to this important matter.

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fuz-zel
Posts: 5
Registered: ‎12-19-2012

Re: (GPL'd) source code with build details for Logitech Alert 700e camera's

Seems Logitech is commited to their customers:

 

http://forums.logitech.com/t5/Security-Cameras-General/Logitech-s-Commitment-to-Logitech-Alert-Custo...

 

and to quote:

"We very much appreciate our loyal Alert community and will continue to support and communicate with our customers."

 

Thus it would be good if somebody like "James Lopez, General Manager of the digital video security (DVS) group at Logitech" will finally come back to this question and answer it properly (that is, provide the full source, as they are supposed to).

 

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fuz-zel
Posts: 5
Registered: ‎12-19-2012

Re: (GPL'd) source code with build details for Logitech Alert 700e camera's

With the help of another thread (the response was not made here): http://forums.logitech.com/t5/Security-Cameras-General/Logitech-s-Commitment-to-Logitech-Alert-Custo...

 

We now know that Logitech has released the source code and some of the changes made to it (though these are primarily the changes TI did, apparently none of the code is from Logitech...) :

 

https://opensource.logitech.com/opensource/index.php/Logitech_Alert%E2%84%A2_Security_System

 

Now it is to be seen how complete this is of course, but that is great progress!

 

It seems that the kernel patches are there along with U-Boot, as such, one would at least be able to compile this into something.

 

U-Boot handles the boot and minimal DHCP for the bootloader.

 

What thus is missing is everything that is related to userspace, including the busybox that is also present.

 

As such, now there is to hope that that will be added to the above webpage soon too...