10-18-2010 10:48 AM
That clears my question about the volume knob.
About the hiss from the satellites, is that normal?
Do you have any song to test the subwoofer? I think my sub is not normal. Someone said that he is blown away even with minimum bass level on the control pod but I'm not.
10-18-2010 10:02 PM
Z-2300's are famous for its quietness at idle. This is due to two fat capacitors it uses for filtering. Altec's are famous for their hissing sound.
As for subwoofer testing you will find many examples in youtube. Browse by "Bass test Z 2300". I have said before in my complete review, that Z-2300 uses a 200w amplifier powering a set of 100W speakers. So, if you use the speakers at full blast say for 2 hours or so, there is a possibility of speaker damage. The satellites are generally first to go. The sub can take a lot of beating.
10-19-2010 06:18 AM
So yours doesn't have hiss at all? Mine have the hiss but it's only noticeable when the volume is about 65% and up and I have to put my ears close to the satellites to hear it.
Can you confirm it for me?
I'm gonna have my set replaced if it is not normal.
10-22-2010 01:38 AM - edited 11-12-2010 06:12 AM
Review of Sony SRS-DB500 and comparative analysis with Logitech Z-2300
One of the unknown names, currently in Indian PC speaker market happens to be Sony. One of my friends being a Sony fanboy purchased their SRS-DB500 on September,2010 at Rs.9,000.
Yesterday i was spending some time with him at his home, so I was able to see it in flesh & also hear at full blast for quite some time. Here is my review:
Like Logitech Z-2300 or Z-623, Sony SRS-DB500 packs Tyson-strength. I mean they have the sonic wallop to make your ears bleed with its raw power. Sony states that DB-500 have 300W RMS of power. They subwoofer makes 150W & the satellites gets 75W each. But since the manufacturer had not stated either they are total peak power or total RMS power, they are almost always going to be the former.
So the total RMS power is half of total peak power which stands at 150W RMS. This is a very respectable figure. So real power distribution:
Subwoofer: 75W RMS
Satellites: 37.5W RMS X 2
Sony’s engineers have decided to get busy with the illuminations, placing a ring of red light around the large volume knob at the top of the system. Not only does this work as a volume indicator, it also throbs and revolves in time to the music or sound effects your listening to, with three different effects that you can select using the remote control. Though this to newcomers act as an attraction, to me being an audiophile are waste of money and should be better spent in providing better quality components.
Luminous 'bling' aside, the controls are simple, with an on/off switch, an input selector and two bass and treble buttons which toggle the volume control between master volume and bass/treble volume respectively. The one area where Sony has gone a bit light is on the sockets. Beyond the two non-standard connectors for the satellite speakers, we get a pair of stereo phono inputs for the main source at the back, plus a single 3.5mm auxiliary input and a headphone socket. This makes a certain amount of sense if you’re hooking up a games console, media player or Blu-Ray/DVD player as your main source, but it’s weird to hook up a set of desktop PC speakers to your PC using the slightly messy auxiliary input at the front.
The satellites are 2.5" full range drivers just like Z-2300 or Z-623. The sound produced by them are clear and vibrant. But they lack the characteristic precision, crispness and brassy sound notes of the Logitech's. Both Z-2300 & Z-623 uses polished aluminium phase plug drivers which are far superior and costs much more than DB500's satellite drivers.
Z-2300's satellites have the best sound quality, maximum power output at 40W RMS per channel and obviously the best looking of the lot. Z-623 have less power at 35 W per channel but are still better than DB-500 since it produces a much more wider & detailed sound-stage.
The subwoofer of DB-500 uses a 6.2 inch driver and packs 75 watts of earth rattling power. But the bass, while powerful, isn’t actually that well defined. That cavernous bass you come across in so many Massive Attack tracks works well, but the acoustic bass in the Bill Evans Trio’s working of Some Day My Prince Will Come lacks focus. Z-623's subwoofer at 130 W is much more powerful, and it's 7 inch driver is able to create a more precise and more well defined bass.
Z-2300 subwoofer at 120W RMS is the best of the lot. It wins hands down due to its technical advantage over the rest. The 8 inch driver is the biggest of the lot. The characteristic punchy bass that it creates is far superior to DB-500 and is not only suited to music but also movies and games as well. Z-2300's subwoofer have a Jackel & Hide character. It can produce punchy bass, cavernous bass, acoustic bass or any kind of bass you through at it. And the depth of the bass is stupendous.
The SRS-DB500s actually seem more sensible if used with a console to replace under-powered TV speakers, but here I’d counsel you to see if you can track down the Logitech Z-2300 or Logitech Z-632 or Altec Lansing MX-5021 sets, which produce much better results. The SRS-DB500s are still amongst the best as gaming speakers and also for watching movies.
DB-500 lacks the single minded attitude of performance over looks that I find in Z-2300. The Logitech engineers were so busy with the sound quality & the quality of the components used that they ignored this illumination makeups. The result is THX certification medal of honor which DB-500 does not possess.
Big, beefy, somewhat brash speakers with the right credentials for big action games and movies. However, this isn’t as musical or versatile as Logitech Z-2300 system.
10-25-2010 10:09 AM - edited 10-25-2010 10:11 AM
nice review. I've heard DB500 a couple of times. I can say they are just average, nothing special. but i bet it's less 'brighter' than the Z2300. btw, i hate the flashing light, looks like a cheap system.
btw, i did a review on my z cinema earlier this year (march). it was decent (bought it at around Z2300 price, converted) but has some ridiculous flaws that prevent people from buying it.
10-25-2010 11:07 AM - edited 10-25-2010 11:11 AM
Z Cinema is a connected to the computer via USB rather than 3.5 mm audio jack. This brings limitation as you cannot use the speaker set any were else except computers. That was one of the reasons i did not buy Z Cinema.
When i went to buy my Z-2300 in 2008 i also auditioned the Z Cinema. Of course the sales representative told me Z Cinema is much better than Z-2300 since it is newer model, much better looking, sophisticated, USB + software, raw 180W RMS power, having a remote control and surround sound and thus more costly than Z-2300 .... blah blah blah.
But I never wanted sophitication, I wanted sound quality.
Then i told him to play the same song in Z-2300. The the older, mundane looking, unsophisticated, without any software + 3.5mm audio input jacked, minuscule 200W RMS powered, with out remote and surround sound but with THX certification, less costly Z-2300 literally made the Z Cinema eat the dust.
Z-2300 is so much loud, have such a killer bass output it simply blew the Z Cinema in the water. I purchased the Z-2300 and told the sales representative to have the Z Cinema. He smiled and told me me latter that i was a tough nut to crack !!!
10-26-2010 05:16 AM
yup, but there's 3.5mm input as well. the problem lies with the USB "dac" thingy inside, that has pathetic drivers that will cause system error / crash when it's disconnected while playing any music. this is why they reduce the price of z cinema to as low as US100. to make it worse, it is not compatible with win7 out of the box.
any sales will have any hard time selling the z cinema, not only it has higher SRP, but it also doesn't offer something special for the price. might as well get the Z5500 altogether.
i don't have the chance to get Z2300 as it's not available here, only the Z5500. offering multi inputs including coax and optical, it doesn't sound as good as the Z cinema, unless you're only hearing the bass. if you're auditioning z cinema thru the USB with the software enabled, then it is same with listening to the crappy SRS audio sandbox at certain preset.
I'm not fond of THX certification either. Got a very old THX certified Altec Lansing ADA885. goes much deeper than z cinema, but doesn't really excel in music. Since my primary use is for listening to music, i didn't need the THX cert either.
i can't help wondering why logitech release the Z623 to replace the Z2300. if the z2300 already sell well then all they need is a new flagship 2.1 to replace the buggy z cinema, without usb sound processor and awful SRS software.