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tm030614
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Popping and Humming sound - Shielding issues Logitech Audio systems
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Hello,
 
We, members of the forum Gathering of Tweakers, specifically Het Logitech PLOPJES probleem topic Deel 4, started this topic in the Netherlands due to an overwhelming number of complaints concerning noise issues regarding Logitech Audio Systems. This involves, in particular, the Z-5500 and X-530 speaker set, but also other Logitech audio models suffer from this issue.
 
Let us first explain what the problems are about.
 
There are 3 main issues:
1. "Popping" noises from the speaker system. When light switches, blenders, fridges or other electrical appliances are switched on or off, a very loud and disturbing "popping" noise is generated in the audio systems. Sometimes the volume of this “pop” is at such a loud level, that you do not want to be in the same room when it occurs.
 
2. An irritating permanent ‘humming noise’ coming from the subwoofer.
 
3. And in some occasions the speaker picks up radio signals that can be heard. And that without any other appliances connected.
 
Since most people do not realize that the problems are part of their Logitech speaker system, they usually blame their indoor electrical system or other electrical appliances. This idea was (and still is) stimulated by the things mentioned in the customer support (FAQ 3629 and 3630) section on Logitech's website. As a result, many people are buying EMI filters, which of course do not provide a solution. Some members have started the initiative and contacted Logitech about these issues in order to solve the problems. At first, Logitech even denied that a problem existed which affected their speaker systems. However, a few members, who are qualified engineers, did investigate the Z-5500 and some other audio models and figured out exactly what is causing the noise problems. With some minor modifications they managed to solve almost completely the noise issues.
 
It became very clear that the noise problem is a result of a design error and affects not only the Z-5500 and the X-530, but also other Logitech audio models. There is no doubt that the Logitech design staff has repeatedly underestimated the importance of a proper shielding of the respective audio units. May we point out that it is common knowledge that a proper shielding of audio equipment is essential, in order to avoid noise problems.
 
However, it took an incredible 5 months for Logitech to accept this fact. Due to our efforts Logitech was not able to deny any longer that a serious problem exists regarding their audio units. Since Logitech showed no initiative at all to change their FAQ section, we had to press hard for Logitech to do so! As a result the FAQ were somewhat altered and a refund policy, concerning the Z-5500 as well as the X-530, is offered.
 
May we draw your attention to the fact that Logitech is still talking about a "manufacturing issue". However, the noise problems are definitely a result of a design error!
 
Now, 10 months later, after many emails, phone calls, meetings, prototype testing and even some visits of members of Logitech’s Technical staff (to test some experimental units at the homes of members), the aim of this matter, a popping free Z-5500 speaker system, has been obtained!
For X-530 Surround-Sound Audio customers who experience this problem and have not found a suitable solution with our Customer-Support staff, Logitech is offering the option of a refund on the purchase price.
 
Logitech believes that the noise (popping) problem is very localized and only concerns The Netherlands and Belgium. However, this is a far cry from the reality. By using Google it is not very hard to find many, many, forums (worldwide) that are related to this “popping" problem.

If you experience this problem you can contact the Logitech customer support. If there becomes a problem while contacting them you can send me an email message plopjesprobleem@xs4all.nl so I can help you further. EDIT: The email address plopjesprobleem@xs4all.nl is not longer available. If you have a question or something else please post your message here on the forum.

Best regards,

The Forum members

Representatives: BvB (tm030614 - representing the forum users of tweakers.net) 

RV, MvH, DW, RC

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TXGC
Posts: 6
Registered: 09-22-2006
Re: Popping and Humming sound - Shielding issues Logitech Audio systems
Ah, thank you, this is exactly what I was hoping for.
 
my sub began making a hum not long ago and my speakers have been popping since ive gotten them, nice to see logitech admitting a design flaw and actually doing something about it. Unlike other, pc speaker makers...cough...
 
I was literally just about to contact tech support after i checked this board one more time, im guessing I should metnion this revision they are doing when I call 'um. Isnt this the 2nd time theyve redone the prouduct? First being when the replaced the speaker wires, and now this. Meh, cmon logitech, all these problems never shoulda happened, it all seems like common sense. Ah well, as long as I get my new set of popping free 5500's when I call 'um im good.
 
Only thing im concerned about is how long untill I could safely buy a set, say, off of newegg, and know its the popping free version. That, and how long itll take to get my replacement version at all, I really dont want to wait 6 weeks for my new set. Excuse me for being uninformed but this wont...say...up the price on them right? Since ive already noticed an unusual increase in price recently (Before they went for like 220, now its 260 everywhere)
 
Meh...
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Maddmatt
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Registered: 09-27-2006
Re: Popping and Humming sound - Shielding issues Logitech Audio systems
The X-530 owners just get a refund? I guess Logitech only thinks their high paying customers are worth giving a replacement? If all I'm going to get is a refund then that money will definitely be spent on another company's speakers. And this attitude puts me off Logitech products, now to get my refund I have got to phone Logitech (which costs money), dig up my reciept (which is a hassle) and then I have to ship my speakers back (which is a pain in the **s). Definitely not good customer service.
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tm030614
Posts: 37
Registered: 09-26-2006
Re: Popping and Humming sound - Shielding issues Logitech Audio systems
I fully agree with you. I have discussed this matter for a long time with Logitech. Unfortunally money is just the point for Logitech. Of course Logitech will not write down a official statement about this decision.
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leatherdolphins
Posts: 335
Registered: 09-26-2006
Re: Popping and Humming sound - Shielding issues Logitech Audio systems
Well I have just ordered a z-5450 it is from Logitech and so I wander if they will pop as well because I have gotten all of my pc speakers from them and I at least have had no problems at all until my last ones they pop when ever some body goes into my bath room and flips the switch on or off but I have some others that are pluged up into my Moms pc and they are from Logitech and they don't pop. Anyways I guess I won't know for sure what will happen not until they come in this week or next. I'll say something in here if the go bad or good. A side from all of this I really like them alot and the popping noise isn't that much a problem cause the only person that goes in there he isn't home here until late in the evening other then that the speakers are fine. I'm not sure what brand they are the ones in my room or on my Mom's.
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TXGC
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Registered: 09-22-2006
Re: Popping and Humming sound - Shielding issues Logitech Audio systems
Oddly enough, when I called Logitech to get my new set, I mentioned this revision, which the pretty much denied exsisted.
 
Now, I dont know if this was a uninformed tech support guy, or what, but he pretty much said that the problem wasnt the speakers, that its a problem all speakers can get, and he said the only thing he could imagine causing that was the connection between the control pod and sub.
 
So now im sending in the control pod to get a whole new set, which begs some questions,
 
In the warrenty it says they pay for allshipping, but he just told me to ''send in the control pod too---'', should I be getting a box or something to send the pod in some time soon, or do I just send it to them?
 
Also, I rmember something about vancouver, yet they are in LA, **bleep**?
 
Oh, and what should I do with my now collecting dust old set of 5500s?
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Maddmatt
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Registered: 09-27-2006
Re: Popping and Humming sound - Shielding issues Logitech Audio systems
Big companies are the worst to deal with when you have problems, but the fact that Logitech denies these obvious problems is just unacceptable. And by just giving their customers a simple refund they are giving up those customers. I wont be buying any Logitech products anymore if I'm going to get this kind of service.
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tm030614
Posts: 37
Registered: 09-26-2006
Re: Popping and Humming sound - Shielding issues Logitech Audio systems
@TXGC

Would you like to send me your casenumber? My email is plopjesprobleem@xs4all.nl
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leatherdolphins
Posts: 335
Registered: 09-26-2006
Re: Popping and Humming sound - Shielding issues Logitech Audio systems
I have my 5450 speakers and I have heard no popping or humming so I'm glad that these don't do it like my last ones did boy that was annoing.
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SeanTek
Posts: 9
Registered: 10-02-2006
Re: Popping and Humming sound - Shielding issues Logitech Audio systems
Yes, I have this popping problem too. See this post for a poll of who does not have the problem.